Hey girls... (no, I'm not comin' on to ya')

[Drax]

March 8 is International Women's Day. The day is a global celebration of the achievements and impact of women. Part of the goal of the day is to help women attain equal rights worldwide. In many parts of the world, March 8 is an official holiday.

[xoxoxoBruce]

They already have most of the money and all of the pussy.

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

They already have most of the money and all of the pussy.

so say absent fathers

[lushchocolateswirl]

i think this day is important for some areas of the world .
There are lots of places where rape is used as a weapon of war or the men die because of the AIDS epidemics leaving the females to fend for themselves. In these areas women do not have rights and are starving. But there are plenty of other places where women are the leaders of countrys and do just as good as many of there male counterparts. Sometimes better. I was looking at a timetable and grid of world leaders and it seemed to show that when women were in charge there was less war or less talk of war. Maybe that says something.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Norway’s New Quota: Corporate Board 40% Women Or Else!

[Griff]

If graduation rates are any indication many males are giving up on leadership roles. Schools are apparently miserable places for them.

[Cicero]

The fact that this thread turned so negative so quickly is a great indicator.

[Griff]

From HLJ's link:
In separate research that Kleinfeld is also preparing for publication, she has possibly gotten to the root of the problem.

"Here's a fascinating fact," she said. "There is no literacy gap in home-schooled boys and girls."

"Why? In school, teachers emphasize reading literature and talking about character and feelings," she said. "This way of teaching reading does not turn boys on. Boys prefer reading nonfiction, such as history and adventure books. When they are taught at home, parents are more likely to let them follow their interests."


I guess that brings a couple threads together.

As far as negativity goes, it is apparent that l'chocoswirl and I do not share a common language.

[Clodfobble]

"Why? In school, teachers emphasize reading literature and talking about character and feelings," she said. "This way of teaching reading does not turn boys on. Boys prefer reading nonfiction, such as history and adventure books. When they are taught at home, parents are more likely to let them follow their interests."

See, but here's my problem: in junior high, and definitely by high school, classes are separated by topic. It is certainly possible for English classes to include some nonfiction books in their reading selections, but you can't cut out literature altogether. Meanwhile, nonfiction books dominate every other topic, especially in history class. If the boys are deficient in English class, why aren't the girls deficient in history class?

I'm not saying I have an answer to this, I just think there's more to it than 'teachers ought to talk less about characters' feelings.'

[Griff]

My personal view is that it's more about turning young boys off early on. Many are not ready for sitting quietly and standing in line, which are prerequisites for the academics that are often being crammed down their throats in pre-k. Instead of focusing on fun enriching activities that make boys like school, there is a demand for academic development at the time when social development is more important. The key is individualizing education enough so the more advanced (often) girls can learn to read while the less advanced(often) boys figure out how to use words to resolve conflicts.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Griff

My personal view is that it's more about turning young boys off early on. Many are not ready for sitting quietly and standing in line, which are prerequisites for the academics that are often being crammed down their throats in pre-k. Instead of focusing on fun enriching activities that make boys like school, there is a demand for academic development at the time when social development is more important. The key is individualizing education enough so the more advanced (often) girls can learn to read while the less advanced(often) boys figure out how to use words to resolve conflicts.

Amen, brother.

[lushchocolateswirl]

Hunglike, the article you quoted is dated 2006. The information within the article is proof that before that article was written there was already studies looking into the problems.

GRIFF. Funnily enough I went to an information night about our school welfare system last night. The principle was talking about discipline for boys and how different it has to be to disciplining girls.
Science is very hands on in our school and so is sport. All boys (from grade three upwards) in our school has to take on a leadership and organisation role at least once during the school year. Almost all the boys in our little school has an outside sport and are encouraged to participate in such. (football, cricket, swimming, tennis.) But in all of this encouraging we expect the girls to do it too.
I understand what you are all saying about boys being left behind. I have three sons and I've seen the difference in schooling, comparing what my 20 year old had to what my 13 and 10 year olds have today, and there is a marked difference and a heck of a lot more emphazise on boys.
Another problem we had (in Victoria) is quite some time ago the government closed all the tech schools. Boys were meant to sit in a classroom for six years and get their VCE . If they couldn't cope well it was just too bad . They either had to leave school at 15 to go to work (apprenticeships) or fail. At least now they are introducing TECH back into the highschools so boys can have all the interesting gadget stuff and stay at school for a more rounded education (english, history, the arts. etc)
Griff, boys have to know how to stand in line and sit and listen. But it's not as simple as that . Boys have to know why they are standing in line and sitting quietly. You're right in the individual learning but I believe that all education should be for both sexes and not just one.
Education was centred around boys once, then more recently it was centred around girls, hopefully now we'll get it right .
We are speaking the same language just coming at the same subject by different understandings.

[Shawnee123]

I remember reading at various points in JrHi and HS

White Fang
An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge
In Cold Blood

All very boysy stories. I don't remember Mr G asking me how I felt about any of it.

[HungLikeJesus]

March 8th was three days ago. Get back in the kitchen.

I'm sorry. That was rude.

[Shawnee123]

I hear you, but your words make me feel undervalued.

This couples counseling doesn't work for shit.