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Old 01-06-2008, 01:14 PM   #1
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American Excess

This is a brilliant photo-study of the amount of consumption (and other social issues) in America today.


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Chris Jordan keeps his eyes open for staggering statistics, and the more alarming the better. What sets his 44-year-old heart racing is some new figure expressing American excess and neglect—the number of disposable batteries manufactured by Energizer every year (6 billion) or plastic beverage bottles used every five minutes (2 million) or children without health insurance (9 million). Think of him as the unofficial artist of the Harper’s Index.

The puzzlelike photographs he makes in response to these big numbers are designed to illustrate “the scale of consumption of 300 million people” and what such rampant profligacy, if unchecked, might mean for the future of the planet. He has completed 19 pieces for the sardonic series he calls "Running the Numbers: An American Self-Portrait," and he has more in the works
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Old 01-06-2008, 04:33 PM   #2
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A common view from the bottom looking up.
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:36 PM   #3
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A common view from the bottom looking up.
I wouldn't call it a class issue. Plastic bottles and plastic bags aren't the trappings of the rich. The point is the disposable culture to which we belong. Consider the trash of someone in the middle class in the 1700's compared to today. If it wasn't hauled away, the plastic bottles, plastic bags, aluminum cans, etc would reach higher than the roofs of our houses in a year or two.

Recycling has helped, but gone are the days when we refilled bottles, reused boxes, etc. Right now we're exporting a lot of trash, but this is not sustainable.

Did you ever hear of syringes and medical waste washing up on beaches in the 30's, 40's, and 50's?
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:20 PM   #4
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I wouldn't call it a class issue.
I could not agree more... well until the author threw in: "or children without health insurance (9 million). ", then it obviously became a political issue and the author was exposed as having an adgenda other than saving the environment (which I would have otherwise supported).
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:46 PM   #5
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Rich, you might be interested in this article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/op...on&oref=slogin

Some of his arguments are sketchy but the main point is good.
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:25 PM   #6
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yes, because trying to save childrens lives and protect their health is definitely just political pandering.

A humanitarian agenda =/= a political agenda, except where one side is against humanitarianism.

Is this honestly what america has come to?
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:29 PM   #7
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Fuck that. Bleeding hearts want you to believe that people are dying left and right in America becasue of the lack of national health insurance and that is bull shit. I work in health care and can tell you that all of the illegal aliens are getting free health care in the US while those citzens who were born here get nadda...
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:17 PM   #8
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Fuck that. Bleeding hearts want you to believe that people are dying left and right in America becasue of the lack of national health insurance and that is bull shit. I work in health care and can tell you that all of the illegal aliens are getting free health care in the US while those citzens who were born here get nadda...
So, because of our lack of national health insurance, illegal aliens are doing great, and citizens are dying left and right?

That doesn't seem to support your "bull shit" accusation.
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So, because of our lack of national health insurance, illegal aliens are doing great, and citizens are dying left and right?

That doesn't seem to support your "bull shit" accusation.
I never said that our "citizens are dying left and right". What I said was that illegals get free health care while the working poor get nada.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:21 PM   #10
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What I said was that illegals get free health care while the working poor get nada.
The working poor can go to the ER just like the illegals and be treated. How are you getting the working poor get nada but the illegals get free health care?
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The working poor can go to the ER just like the illegals and be treated. How are you getting the working poor get nada but the illegals get free health care?
Medicaid.

Paid for by our tax dollars.
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I never said that our "citizens are dying left and right". What I said was that illegals get free health care while the working poor get nada.
You said that liberals said there was not enough health coverage, and to refute those bleeding hearts you said that the working poor got none. Not a particularly convincing refutation. Or were you advocating that the working poor go to the ER for checkups like those lucky ducky illegals?
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You said that liberals said there was not enough health coverage, and to refute those bleeding hearts you said that the working poor got none. Not a particularly convincing refutation. Or were you advocating that the working poor go to the ER for checkups like those lucky ducky illegals?
Oh they do. I know plenty who do and see them do so. I definately would not advocate it. See legal citzens who have a SSN, a home, a place of employment, etc. are targets of debt collectors when they can't pay their ER bill, illegal aliens, who get the same care, are off the hook in that respect.
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:31 PM   #14
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I hope you wont be too offended if I don't take your word for it.
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:35 PM   #15
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Not at all, this is a public board filled with nothing more than individual opinions. Enjoy. Share. Consider.
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