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Old 04-28-2007, 12:13 AM   #1
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YAWN: Another Washington Sex Scandal

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Federal Official Resigns in Inquiry of Escort Service


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WASHINGTON, April 27 — The head of the Agency for International Development, Randall L. Tobias, resigned abruptly on Friday for what he said were “personal reasons,” but an administration official said Mr. Tobias’s name had come up in an investigation of a suspected Washington prostitution ring.
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Mr. Tobias told ABC that he used the service for massages, not sex, according to the network’s Web site.
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Mr. Tobias, 65, is a former chairman and chief executive of Eli Lilly & Company and of AT&T International. He served as the chairman of the board of Duke University from 1997 to 2000. He was also a major donor to various Republican campaigns.

He held two federal titles. President Bush nominated him in July 2003 to lead a $15 billion program to fight AIDS worldwide. As director of United States Foreign Assistance, he held the rank of ambassador.

At the time, some AIDS experts said Mr. Tobias did not have much experience with AIDS or Africa. In January 2006, Mr. Bush said he would nominate Mr. Tobias to be the administrator of the Agency for International Development. That position gave him the rank of deputy secretary of state.
It appears that this guy had a real job. Couldn't Bush have made him ambassador to Lichtenstein or something? Granted, being a university chairman implies the man wasn't a complete idiot.

And before everyone decides to bring up Clinton, let me make one distinction. At least Democrats don't have to pay for it.
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Old 04-28-2007, 07:49 AM   #2
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And before everyone decides to bring up Clinton, let me make one distinction. At least Democrats don't have to pay for it.
Good one.
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Old 04-28-2007, 07:52 AM   #3
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...And before everyone decides to bring up Clinton, let me make one distinction. At least Democrats don't have to pay for it.
And they don't profess to be the party with the morals.

Cause they're not.

But neither are the repubicans.
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:14 PM   #4
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chief executive of Eli Lilly & Company and of AT&T International. He served as the chairman of the board of Duke University
Doesn't Eli Lilly make stuff used in abortions?
Isn't AT&T involved with that illegal wire tapping?
Isn't Duke where those Field Hockey players were accused of raping those entertainers?

He certainly left a trail of scandal behind.






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Old 04-28-2007, 04:32 PM   #5
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This is but the tip of the iceberg. The madam in question was basically the supplier for all of capitol hill and her book of names is in an evidence bag somewhere....
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Old 04-28-2007, 05:27 PM   #6
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This is but the tip of the iceberg. The madam in question was basically the supplier for all of capitol hill and her book of names is in an evidence bag somewhere....
It's sort of a mixed blessing for the administration. Since Republicans hold their politicians to a stricter sexual standard than Democrats, even if both parties are equally represented in the book, Republicans will get hammered worse. However, if leaked the book would dominate the news for at least 3-4 weeks and take the heat off the administration's dismal domestic and foreign policies as well as their various legal troubles.

Bill Mahr would probably have to host a three hour special just to cover all of the humor potential.

And what if the book is coded?

Bill Frist ... SW/Gblo/Cbk/Dm/Shp
Jim Bunning ... Viag++/Slp
Joe Biden ... +++?
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Old 04-28-2007, 05:39 PM   #7
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She tried to sell the book/list but a judge wouldn't let her.

All the names will come out soon enough - and yes its far, far worse for republicans. I think they are all (politicians of both stripes) a bunch of losers so I'm kind of looking forward to it. I check Drudge/Fark/Smoking Gun regularly :-)
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Old 04-28-2007, 06:26 PM   #8
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Nothing really new under the sun.

Lest we forget, one of the reasons Obama is currently contending for first place as the Democratic candidate for president is that he has 2 years of experience in the Senate.

One of the reasons he got to be a Senator is that his opponent Jack Ryan's campaign self-destructed when reporters were able to get his divorce papers unsealed.

Ryan's ex-wife, Jeri Ryan, is an actress and major babe familiar to Star Trek fans as Seven of Nine. Jack allegedly was not content to merely have one of the hottest wives in Washington, and the resulting allegations sank his political career at warp speed.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:07 PM   #9
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Why do we give a shit who sleeps with whom?
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:16 PM   #10
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I agree with Rob. On the other hand, I love to see self-righteous assholes get a comeuppance.

Moral? Keep legislation out of the bedroom, and you automatically defuse the humor potential when you get caught getting 'massaged'.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:20 PM   #11
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The fun thing is that her defense is that she ran a massage and fantasy business with no sex involved. She turned her phone records over to ABC so that they can do the leg work and ask all of her clients if sex is involved.

So the government freezes all of her assets, forcing her to use a public defender. The judge also denies her the right to sell her lists.

So she gave them to ABC for free. The first episode airs on 20/20 May 4th.

It does seem unfair that the government can freeze assets before a person has been declared guilty so that they can't afford a lawyer to defend themselves. It sounds like she's found a way to make her point.

The monolithic 'government' doesn't care about this. The individuals all throughout D.C. who represent the movers and shakers in the government probably care a great deal. Unfortunately, the case is so public now that there is no way to make it disappear.

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Deborah Jeane Palfrey, 50, was interviewed by ABC News several weeks ago, the network confirmed Monday. The network did not pay Palfrey for the interview, which is to run on "20/20" beginning May 4, according to ABC News and Palfrey's attorney, Montgomery Blair Sibley.

Palfrey has hinted that well-known people in Washington were among her clients from 1993 to 2006, but has not named any. Asked whether ABC News could identify former clients, Sibley said, "Records were turned over unconditionally to them. They're going to do what they're going to do. Who knows?"
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:45 AM   #12
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So the government freezes all of her assets, forcing her to use a public defender. The judge also denies her the right to sell her lists.
Oh, man, this is great!

I'm trying to figure out how many judges they had to talk to before they found one that wouldn't have to recuse himself. And I'm sure by the time they found one, he or she was given a littany of instructions and a crash-course in seldom-used legal maneuvers to keep the list under wraps.

I'm holding my breath to see if they impose a gag order on ABC! Guffaw!!

There are rivers of sweat running down Pennsylvania Avenue, political favors are being called in left and right, PR firms telephones are ringing off the hook.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen these are our elected representatives in all their stinkin' glory.
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:27 PM   #13
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Why do we give a shit who sleeps with whom?
All I care about is the job they do.
This was my opinion until a sharp acquaintance of mine pointed out that marital infidelity might also correlate with other flavors of infidelity, and possibly worse. Now I'm kind of up in the air on the whole thing.

The world isn't transparent; we never completely know how well these people do their jobs, or what other figs they're plucking.
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Old 05-04-2007, 03:07 PM   #14
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This was my opinion until a sharp acquaintance of mine pointed out that marital infidelity might also correlate with other flavors of infidelity, and possibly worse. Now I'm kind of up in the air on the whole thing.

The world isn't transparent; we never completely know how well these people do their jobs, or what other figs they're plucking.
I don't think because someone cheats on their wife they are going to lie about everything.
If we get rid of the stigma of sexual behavior and giving a damn if someone is divorced, gay, sleeping around, dating or not, then they will be able to leave their wives before dating around if they are not happy in their marriage, instead of trying to maintain the image of the perfect, ridiculous, xian, family that so many feels means "something".
Get rid of that bullshit, and then they can leave their wives whenever they want.
Finally, even if they do cheat on their wives, that has nothing to do with their integrity elsewhere.

I, for me, do not lie anywhere in my life, even the "how does this look on me" crap. Those in my life know not to expect me to lie about those. If it makes you look bad, I tell you. An aunt asked me once if she looked like she had gained weight... I still hear about that "episode".
However, I don't think that most do that or should. If you can lie about how she looks in a dress you can separate your personal life and your business life.
As long as they have a good track record professionally, I will vote for them.
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Old 05-04-2007, 03:40 PM   #15
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snip~ instead of trying to maintain the image of the perfect, ridiculous, xian, family that so many feels means "something". ~snip
Jews, Muslims, Buddists, et al, don't have images of what family life should and shouldn't be?
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