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06-01-2006, 08:36 PM | #1 | |
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Santorum says....
I got this email today;
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06-01-2006, 08:39 PM | #2 | |
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Seriously, he is an asshole. But not because he voted against S.2611.
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06-01-2006, 11:09 PM | #3 | ||
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Now I don't know what the publicity hack overheard to order the eviction, but: a) It wasn't her or Santorum's bookstore. If anything, only a store employee should have been able to order their eviction. b) Don't advertise a discussion if you're not going to accept opposing views. If the woman heard that they planned to be disruptive, she should have spoken to a store manager. If she just got the impression that they were going to ask difficult questions, she should be sued. In general, before evicting someone it is better to wait until they are disruptive. If everyone who just seemed suspicious was automatically ejected from stores (insert racial profiling joke here). I love the backpedaling here. Apparently, noone was responsible. Not Santorum, not the bookstore, not the 'family institute'. In general, bookstores and libraries take the first amendment pretty seriously, considering that is the basis for their existence. I am surprised the store went along with this. I actually shop at that Barnes and Noble and after reading this I will stop in and register my disapproval. Quote:
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06-02-2006, 05:32 AM | #4 | |
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In fact when Gwennie worked at Borders I seem to recall something very similar going on at a booksigning for Terrell Owens.
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06-02-2006, 05:41 PM | #5 |
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I wonder if he was afraid to hold it in Pennsylvania?
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06-02-2006, 07:11 PM | #6 | |
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06-02-2006, 07:30 PM | #7 | |
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So far the vast majority of people in 'free speech' zones and ejected from events have been those confronting conservatives.
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06-02-2006, 08:29 PM | #8 | |
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In any event, the event was run by the publisher, and it's their employees are who's being sued, not Santorum. I wonder what would have happened if some Pink Pistols had showed up? I understand at least one of the kids was wearing a pink triangle.
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06-03-2006, 04:23 PM | #9 | |
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06-05-2006, 12:21 PM | #10 |
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So a failure at implementation excuses bad intentions? The point was that the Clinton administration was every bit as anxious to preserve their technical ability to wiretap all phones.
I do agree that we all owe a debt to PGP inventor Phil Zimmerman. Phil made sure that strong crypto was available to everyone by defiying the Clinton adminsitration's "munitions export" prosceution...but PGP predated the Clipper Chip by several years; you can't call it "the end result" of the Clipper Chip.
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06-05-2006, 12:36 PM | #11 | |
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06-05-2006, 12:50 PM | #12 | |
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Meanwhile, George Jr promoted bugging anyone - unrestricted use of electronic information - especially without judicial review. That is the difference. Whereas Clinton's administration worried about individual rights, instead, the George Jr administration is about more power- America be damned. It is even why they had no problem outrightly lying when they knew full well that the van was not for biological weapons. When they knew - no doubt what so ever - that those aluminum tubes were not for WMDs. When they invented the entire Niger uranium story. When they have no regrets about international kidnapping and torture. The Clipper chip was about national security with strong judicial review. Unrestricted wiretapping is only about more power to the White House - American rights are irrelevant and should be trampled as necessary. Major difference. George Jr's administration is about violations of American principles for the greater glory of his administration. BTW, that was also an underlying principle of Nixon's administration. Reason an implementation fails is because intentions were bad. The strategic objective was flawed. Therefore attempts to implement that strategic objective were also flawed. A principle found in Vietnam and Misson Accomplished wars as well as in technical solutions such as the Clipper chip and Sony's spyware. Just another example of why 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. |
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06-05-2006, 01:09 PM | #13 | |
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06-05-2006, 01:20 PM | #14 | |
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Show me any other presidency - other than Nixon's - that would even invade nations on lies. Even lie about the lies. That would torture and kidnap all over the world and lie about that. This administration has no respect for fundamental American rights. That fact is not even debateable. Which returns to a previous and simple question. How do we differ in what should be purpose of government? |
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06-05-2006, 12:30 PM | #15 |
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The notion at the time was that they would make PGP illegal, in order for Clipper to make any sense at all -- since there was no reason whatsoever for the government to require an expensive circuit with their own back door if stuff could be encrypted cheaply with a free algorithm.
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