Why Call It News Any More?

04-20-2006, 01:23 AM

With Madonna's Baby's name being far more important than the FBI's Most Wanted List... know anyone on it?... and now out-right, blatant, corporate and federal brain-washing, lets plug-in..tune-in... and turn-on...

Me, I would prefer a bullet.

Newsmercial at 11

Brett's Honey · 04-20-2006, 01:33 AM

I agree. It's so disturbing, I wouldn't even know where to start....

Beestie · 04-20-2006, 04:29 AM

Personally, I'm very interested to know how Tom prepared his new kid's placenta before he ate it. I usually just toss it on the grill but that's getting old and was hoping to find some new recipes.

God help us.

04-20-2006, 09:57 AM

Frankly, I don't consider the FBI's ten most wanted newsworthy, either. By time they make that list, they've probably all dyed their hair and grown beards or had plastic surgery. All news about them does is add to my vague sense of distaste for the modern world. News is usually about some tragedy that I can do absolutely nothing about - be it placentas or mass murderers. I don't watch it anymore.

04-20-2006, 01:30 PM

It was just an example... the fact is that we see less actual news than the tripe and now corporate and federal pap that is being fed to us.
News is what actually affects, or may affect, our lives presented in a objective or editorial manner, the latter done so fully disclosed... when was the last time you saw that?

glatt · 04-20-2006, 02:59 PM

I don't get my news from the TV. I get 60% of my news from the Washington Post, which is one of a handful of remaining independent major newspapers, and 40% from the Cellar and its links.

ferret88 · 04-20-2006, 04:53 PM

Personally, I hate to watch the "news" at least on local channels because it's all about the ratings and trying to convince me that (insert station name) is better that (any other station name) because our helicopter is better'n theirs. AND these folks always have some crucial bit of information that you absolutely must hear so "tune in next thursday night at 10P." If it's so damn important, why the H3LL aren't you telling me NOW, dammit? If I must watch the news, I try to stick to CNN or somesuch. Mostly I get news from USAToday.com or CNN.com. That way, I can decide what's important, cuz, yeah, I couldn't really care less what TomKat are (is?) naming the child.

Trilby · 04-20-2006, 05:55 PM

Um...has anybody said "katie couric!" yet? Does that not send chills down your spine?

Anyway, I get my news from the Daily Show, the Colbert Report (great guests) and here.

Maui Nick · 04-20-2006, 06:33 PM

I'm sorry, but what's presented on TV as "news" is not news at all. It's entertainment. If TV can't dress it up, it's not going to cover it --- how often does a TV reporter show up at a city council or planning board meeting? Almost never.

If you want news, read a newspaper or fall back on the World Wide Whatever.

And I used to be in the newspaper business, so I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about.

Pie · 04-20-2006, 07:29 PM

On a daily basis, I get my news from the following sources:
NPR
The Daily Show
The Colbert Report
BoingBoing
NYTimes (okay, so that's mostly fiction these days)
New Scientist
Slashdot
Scientific American
...And of course, the Cellar.

Huh. No wonder I can't seem to get anything done.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-20-2006, 09:57 PM

I got tired of being pissed off by things I couldn't do anything about.

04-20-2006, 11:20 PM

I'm not going to watch corp. news any longer... I feel that is doing something about it.
I may write CNN if I find they were doing this.

FloridaDragon · 04-29-2006, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I'm not going to watch corp. news any longer... I feel that is doing something about it.
I may write CNN if I find they were doing this.

I agree and that was part of the point I was trying to make to tw but he never got it. The news sources we have all present the truth, some conjecture and falsehoods/inaccuracies. It is the proportions of each that are hard to know and to put your FAITH in any of them as pure truth is just plain crazy. Everyone out there has a slant and until you take that into consideration then you might believe everything on CNN, or FOX or [pick one]. Personally I don't trust any of them. Get my general news from CNN, watch FOX once a month just to laugh usually.... (but I laugh at CNN too, so I guess that is only fair). I freely admit to not being as knowledgeable about US and World events as I should. (but we only have so much time in a day and that is not how I choose to spend it!)

tw · 04-30-2006, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaDragon

I agree and that was part of the point I was trying to make to tw but he never got it. ... Everyone out there has a slant and until you take that into consideration then you might believe everything on CNN, or FOX or [pick one]. Personally I don't trust any of them. Get my general news from CNN, watch FOX once a month just to laugh usually....

Because the local gossip (ie Ten O clock news that hypes a latest murder or reports on car crashes without ever saying why it happened or how to avoid the same mistake) perverts perspective, then all news services pervert perspective? That is what you said then and that is what you are saying now.

CNN mostly reports only that a news story exists; woefully insufficient as a primary news source. If CNN is considered a primary news source, then a consumer has, essentially, no news - insufficient knowledge of the world. Meanwhile, Fox News is news only sufficient to report propaganda. Fox News has same purpose as 1965 Radio Moscow.

Cartoon describes news best described as 'local gossip'. 'Local gossip' reports hype. For example, they ask, "How do you feel". Is that news? Obviously not. When one's primary news source is only CNN, and if one assumes is a typical news source, then one has a distorted grasp of reality.

Responsible news reporters such as Peter Jennings were even blunt with fluff news types. I suspect Barbara Walters was describing a confrontation because Barbara confused fluff - ie Hollywood interviews - with news. According to logic by FloridaDragon, if Barbara Walters did news badly, then all news sources do news badly.

For example, FloridaDragon, tell us about the Sprately Islands. Did CNN report on that military confrontation? Where was your news source when this battle was fought? Were reasons for that battle reported? Responsible news sources, if using them, means a larger significance behind Sprately Islands is common knowledge.

Meanwhile the local gossip shows a car crash. Did they report how that crash happened, why it happened, and how you can avoid making the same mistake? No. They simply report hype - a smashed car and the number of victims. That's not news. That's hype: an emotion that is too often confused as fact. Same confusion causes so many to consider Fox News - propaganda - as news.

WabUfvot5 · 04-21-2006, 12:20 AM

The news is essential if you want to make somebody paranoid.

04-20-2006, 01:23 AM	#1
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Why Call It News Any More? With Madonna's Baby's name being far more important than the FBI's Most Wanted List... know anyone on it?... and now out-right, blatant, corporate and federal brain-washing, lets plug-in..tune-in... and turn-on... Me, I would prefer a bullet. Newsmercial at 11

04-20-2006, 04:29 AM	#3
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	Personally, I'm very interested to know how Tom prepared his new kid's placenta before he ate it. I usually just toss it on the grill but that's getting old and was hoping to find some new recipes. God help us. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

04-20-2006, 06:33 PM	#9
Maui Nick ... is not really in Maui. Weird, huh? Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Near the beach Posts: 153	I'm sorry, but what's presented on TV as "news" is not news at all. It's entertainment. If TV can't dress it up, it's not going to cover it --- how often does a TV reporter show up at a city council or planning board meeting? Almost never. If you want news, read a newspaper or fall back on the World Wide Whatever. And I used to be in the newspaper business, so I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about. __________________ PROJECT STILL TO BE COMPLETED: Adding silly *.sig.

04-20-2006, 07:29 PM	#10
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	On a daily basis, I get my news from the following sources: NPR The Daily Show The Colbert Report BoingBoing NYTimes (okay, so that's mostly fiction these days) New Scientist Slashdot Scientific American ...And of course, the Cellar. Huh. No wonder I can't seem to get anything done. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

04-20-2006, 09:57 PM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I got tired of being pissed off by things I couldn't do anything about. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-20-2006, 01:33 AM	#2
Brett's Honey whatever Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 308	I agree. It's so disturbing, I wouldn't even know where to start....

04-20-2006, 09:57 AM	#4
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Frankly, I don't consider the FBI's ten most wanted newsworthy, either. By time they make that list, they've probably all dyed their hair and grown beards or had plastic surgery. All news about them does is add to my vague sense of distaste for the modern world. News is usually about some tragedy that I can do absolutely nothing about - be it placentas or mass murderers. I don't watch it anymore.

04-20-2006, 01:30 PM	#5
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	It was just an example... the fact is that we see less actual news than the tripe and now corporate and federal pap that is being fed to us. News is what actually affects, or may affect, our lives presented in a objective or editorial manner, the latter done so fully disclosed... when was the last time you saw that?

04-20-2006, 02:59 PM	#6
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I don't get my news from the TV. I get 60% of my news from the Washington Post, which is one of a handful of remaining independent major newspapers, and 40% from the Cellar and its links.

04-20-2006, 04:53 PM	#7
ferret88 (This space left intentionally UN-blank.) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 604	Personally, I hate to watch the "news" at least on local channels because it's all about the ratings and trying to convince me that (insert station name) is better that (any other station name) because our helicopter is better'n theirs. AND these folks always have some crucial bit of information that you absolutely must hear so "tune in next thursday night at 10P." If it's so damn important, why the H3LL aren't you telling me NOW, dammit? If I must watch the news, I try to stick to CNN or somesuch. Mostly I get news from USAToday.com or CNN.com. That way, I can decide what's important, cuz, yeah, I couldn't really care less what TomKat are (is?) naming the child.

04-20-2006, 05:55 PM	#8
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Um...has anybody said "katie couric!" yet? Does that not send chills down your spine? Anyway, I get my news from the Daily Show, the Colbert Report (great guests) and here.

04-20-2006, 11:20 PM	#12
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I'm not going to watch corp. news any longer... I feel that is doing something about it. I may write CNN if I find they were doing this.

04-21-2006, 12:20 AM	#15
WabUfvot5 Operations Operative Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 634	The news is essential if you want to make somebody paranoid.

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