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07-15-2008, 07:42 PM | #1 |
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Why California Sucks Ass!!!
God the list is so long I don't want to waste UT's bandwidth.
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07-15-2008, 07:44 PM | #2 |
“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
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Wildfires Mudslides Radar Papparzi Madonna Snob Hypocrital Liberal Actors Etc.
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07-15-2008, 07:53 PM | #3 |
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Did I miss the law telling you to forcibly relocate, Merc?
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07-15-2008, 08:03 PM | #4 |
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tell me again why sucking ass is bad?
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07-15-2008, 10:00 PM | #6 |
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I've never gotten into the whole California-worship thing. Whenever I've visited (San Diego, Oakland/Berkeley, and Monterey), I thought it was nice, but in a Stepford, plastic kind of way. I've always been happy to return to my native east coast.
Though I have to admit, sometimes when I'm lying awake at 3AM, I do wonder if I should have gone to Cal tech and tried to get a foot in at the JPL. |
07-15-2008, 11:00 PM | #7 |
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Why California Sucks Ass!!!
Feinstein
Boxer Waxman ad infinitum The Socialist Republik of Kalifornistan does your thinking for you.
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07-15-2008, 11:26 PM | #8 |
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The Hoover Damn.
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07-16-2008, 08:50 AM | #9 |
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OK, I have to play devil's advocate here. There is no state in the country where it's as easy as it is in California to change the law via direct ballot action. Yet you suggest that the government is an independent entity that thinks for the citizens. What's the deal?
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07-16-2008, 01:22 PM | #10 | |
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There's a reason we have elected representatives. Professionals, or semi-pro, to do the work of legislation. When (seemingly) every law is challenged by a ballot proposition, what's the point of having a government that makes laws? There have been some spectacular failures of successful ballot initiatives. Prop 13 comes to mind. The unintended consequences of that well intentioned measure were devastating to the public schools. There were other tax funded organizations that suffered greatly. My point is that it is easy, too easy, to write a thunderously pandering proposition, gather the signatures and votes, without adequate regard to overall effect. Additionally, we had these things on the ballot ALL THE DAMN TIME. I don't want to be a legislator. I "hired" someone to do that for me, and my neighbors. I don't want to walk around behind him, redoing all his work.
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When my dad retired, his home was worth 1.1 million. It's a modest 3 bedroom track home in a very hot real estate market. Without prop 13, my dad would have had to come up with $11,000 a year to stay in his home. If he couldn't make that payment on his retirement pension, he would have been forced to sell his home. The alternative to prop 13 is to leave long-term homeowners hostage to the inflated prices jacked up by speculators and foolish buyers.
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07-16-2008, 03:20 PM | #12 |
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I'll stipulate your points. (Notice I never suggested it was a good system.) But my original comment was about a post that suggested that the gummint does people's thinking for them, and I don't see that out of what you describe,
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07-16-2008, 11:17 PM | #13 | |
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I have to admit I was pretty angry after the last vote. We had a proposition (Prop 98) on the ballot to eliminate eminent domain for private use. It would have prevented politicians and wealthy developers from stealing someones home, rentals, business, or place of worship simply because something else would provide more tax dollars. It would have protected real property from people. The developers, and the league of California cities, and counties, etc. created another proposition to sink the first one. They made a proposition that offered no protection at all and paid millions and millions of dollars to scare the crap out of old people and socialists by claiming Prop 98 would end rent control. Prop 98 didn't end rent control for anyone that was already renting under it....even though it should. The scumbags got their way and the idiots of the state voted down the only protection they could get from having their property stolen from them, or their friends, neighbors, and relatives.
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07-15-2008, 10:53 PM | #14 |
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LA gave up NFL football and nobody cared.
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07-15-2008, 10:58 PM | #15 |
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That's just sick.
However, not all of California sucks. The further North of Sacramento you go, the better it gets. Well, the parts that aren't on fire, anyway.
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