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04-02-2009, 04:36 PM
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Un-American
I realise most dwellars are from the US, so thought I'd put this one out.
Does the phrase "Un-American" still have any currency in the States, and if so what does it mean to you? Here in the UK we have become progressively more ethnically and culturally diverse, such that we are now having debates about what it is to be British, and we're having something of a national identity crisis. But we have never as far as I know used terms like "Un-British". Do many people in the States hold a strong sense of national identity/pride, or hold a set of principles which would lead to calling someone or something "Un-American" for whatever reason?
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04-02-2009, 04:41 PM
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04-02-2009, 04:49 PM
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04-03-2009, 11:27 AM
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04-03-2009, 01:31 PM
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04-05-2009, 08:57 PM
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We do use the phrase Un-Australian though. It's usually in response to someone doing something slack like the looting after the bushfires and floods. It's more to do with national pride than anything else I think. Most of us like to think Aussies will pull together in a crisis, and for the main part we do, so those who go against the grain are viewed with contempt by the rest of us.
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04-02-2009, 04:44 PM
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I think it's a badge of pride.
I'd rather be called "unamerican" than "a great american" or some such twaddle.
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04-02-2009, 04:44 PM
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It used to mean something bad about the person it was directed to.
Now, it often means something bad about the person who says it.
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04-03-2009, 11:39 AM
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Once on Audiogalaxy, someone said that Bill Maher was un-American (at the time there was a controversy over some 9/11 comments he made, which I believe eventually got him fired) and anyway I told the guy it was un-American to call someone un-American, after which ensued a vicious debate for the next three days over whether I was allowed to call him un-American at the same time I was objecting to the use of the term un-American. I got the guy so mad he was posting in all caps. I think his head eventually exploded.
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04-03-2009, 03:19 PM
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04-04-2009, 03:00 PM
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And just what are you doing with that other hand?
 Wait, I don't think I want to know... aw, yeah I do. 
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04-03-2009, 11:41 AM
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Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya?
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LMAO. Exploding other's heads is definitely un-American.
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04-03-2009, 12:22 PM
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