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Old 05-16-2012, 01:17 PM   #1
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If you think racism is in the past

http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comment..._for_having_a/
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:38 PM   #2
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Dude - Whats up with the dar return?

Racism is dying a long slow death. It will never be completely eradicated, but over time the numbers will be so small as to not be significant.

I hope thats not you or your friend/son/brother.... in that pic.

Either way - good to see you posting again.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:50 PM   #3
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Slim time to post. No time to hang out and read.

Oops. My fingers got ahead of my brain again.
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:04 PM   #4
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Racism is dying a long slow death. It will never be completely eradicated, but over time the numbers will be so small as to not be significant.
What type of racism? Typical American/European racism?
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:17 PM   #5
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:30 PM   #6
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...Racism is dying a long slow death. It will never be completely eradicated,...
That there is a contradiction.
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Old 05-16-2012, 03:37 PM   #7
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Selective quoting now? WTF?
keep the rest (below) and it makes perfect sense.
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but over time the numbers will be so small as to not be significant.
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:20 PM   #8
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Dead, but not dead. Alive, but small enough as to not be significant, but alive. Dying, never to die, merely to become as to not be significant. There, but only a shadow. A veritable pimple on the ugly ass of the caucazoid majority.

Dying,

slowly.

Never completely eradicated.

small numbers

insignificant...

but not dead.


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Old 05-17-2012, 02:17 PM   #9
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Racism is dying a long slow death. It will never be completely eradicated, but over time the numbers will be so small as to not be significant.
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That there is a contradiction.
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Selective quoting now? WTF?
Spexx, Classic's post makes complete sense to me. Racism as a widespread political/ social/ personal motivator will slowly cease to exist. At least I hope so. But there will always be those who follow behind social/ economic and political trends. The Amish for example - their numbers are so small as to not be significiant. And the influence of the Mormons...

Many Christians still think The Gays were what destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, rather than a lack of hospitality to Angels. And also forget Lot got off scott-free both for destroying his wife and laying with his daughters. Go figure. People's minds are messed up.

Classic, I don't really think it was selective quoting.
I got what you both said.

And Dar - that linked article lacks an awful lot of information.
I am not saying racism does not exist. But if two of the friends live in the neighbourhood and one close by (the way I read it) it seems like an excessively violent racial attack that happened for no other reason in an integrated area.

I know there are racist arseholes out there. I know they can spur eachother on. The same way there are men out there who gang rape with no previous convictions. So I am laying blame or casting aspersions. I am just questioning the lack of details in the account.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:45 PM   #10
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And also forget Lot got off scott-free both for destroying his wife and laying with his daughters.
I thought God destroyed Lot's wife (Ado or Edith) by turning her into a pillar of salt for looking back?
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:40 AM   #11
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I thought God destroyed Lot's wife (Ado or Edith) by turning her into a pillar of salt for looking back?
Yebbut, God gave him rules. He disobeyed. Who suffered? His wife - wiped out for no reason apart from Lot's behaviour.

Not saying God's unfair or anything... just that he doesn't value women or children.
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:58 PM   #12
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Yebbut, God gave him rules. He disobeyed. Who suffered? His wife - wiped out for no reason apart from Lot's behaviour.

Not saying God's unfair or anything... just that he doesn't value women or children.
But, she's the one who looked back. If she hadn't looked back...
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:51 PM   #13
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Spexx, Classic's post makes complete sense to me. Racism as a widespread political/ social/ personal motivator will slowly cease to exist. At least I hope so. But there will always be those who follow behind social/ economic and political trends. The Amish for example - their numbers are so small as to not be significiant. And the influence of the Mormons...
I disagree. I see racism, like sexism and other social doctrines, as dynamic doctrines that fluctuate and change with time depending on the social conditions. The stereotypical white/black racism has certainly decreased in the past 70 years but even that has changed from a very direct racism to an indirect "no one to blame" type racism. Although, especially from talking to peers my age, I don't see the white/black racism disappearing as long cultural tensions exist since that is, in my opinion, the main factor keeping it alive today.

I don't think we can guess where it will head either. If cultural tensions and the inequality gap between white and black Americans decrease a full integration of the two groups may eventually happen. On the other hand, if social conditions go to complete shit then I would expect people to act like they always have: blame the group that is different from them.

Also, just because white/black racism is the most observed doesn't mean it can be labeled as racism in its entirety. The history of the US is a great example of different types of racism. Anglo-Saxxons used to be very racist against the Irish, Poles, and Scandinavians, but today most people couldn't tell if you are 100% Irish, Polish, or Swedish unless you have an accent. The elimination of those types of racism occurred because culturally they combined while this didn't happen with blacks, natives, or Hispanics.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:59 PM   #14
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I disagree. I see racism, like sexism and other social doctrines, as dynamic doctrines that fluctuate and change with time depending on the social conditions.
Who cares. Most people don't. Well except for Jessie Jackson and Al "Brawley" Sharpton. It is bullshit. The Man is President. He may be a White-Black Man (Like Zimmerman the White-Hispanic) but "The Man" is now a black dude. It's over.
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Old 05-18-2012, 03:54 AM   #15
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[quote=TheMercenary;812100]Who cares. Most people don't. QUOTE]

Do you mean 'most people' or most people like you?

I think you're right, most people don't care, but all of those who understand what the problem is with racism do care.

I find it very strange when I read that folk think that the whole of the world's race related issues have been solved in one go when one country elects a half-black (no one ever says half-white) president.
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