Does Anyone feel like Bailing

[Trilby]

AIG and Lehman out?

Because I don't.


I. Do. Not.

Don't tell me it's all for the greater good, it will be worse if we don't,etc. Let the CEO's and CFO's bail their companies out. Mohterf******rs!!!

Am I the only one who feels this way?

and another thing: The Chinese get away with selling toxic lounge chairs?





ok. Sunday late afternoon ennui, I suppose. But, still.

[Elspode]

All you need to know is that rich people will stay rich and poor people will stay poor, and that's how its going to be. Period.

[Trilby]

you mean the Dream of the Middle class is truly over?


And to kill my spirit even more---McCain is leading here in Ohio. Holy shite I cannot believe my neighbors. I really, really cannot. I shake my head in complete disbelief.

[Elspode]

The Middle Class was an aberration...was never supposed to happen. That little sociological blip is rapidly being corrected.

First, we lose the investment in our homes by having had the values artificially inflated so that we would borrow against nonexistent money, then having the values lowered so that we are, effectively being returned to being rental tenants for the next decade or so. Second, any jobs which one can actually make a decent living at are shipped overseas where impoverished people jump at the chance to make 1/10th the wages that were paid in this country. Third, the retirement investments we have all labored to build are consumed by market crashes and negative yields. Finally, inflation consumes any of the expendable income we might have as employers in a slumping economy are unwillng or unable to provide raises to even allow us to stay even with inflation.

The rich will still be rich, because the gap between the wealthy and even the middlest of the Middle class is so enormous.

Anyone taking bets on who will step up to shoot down my thesis?

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Elspode

Anyone taking bets on who will step up to shoot down my thesis?

I bet UG.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Brianna

you mean the Dream of the Middle class is truly over?


And to kill my spirit even more---McCain is leading here in Ohio. Holy shite I cannot believe my neighbors. I really, really cannot. I shake my head in complete disbelief.

Heh... what's a middle class?

I don't know, Bri. I look around and I just have to shake my head in disbelief. I mean, WTF? The only thing I can come up with is that there was a secret little place where you used a secret password to get in. Once in, you signed a secret little paper that said if you kept everything on the down low, you would get some kind of kickback from all the hell the middle class has had to bear, some monetary kickback from the fat oilcats and fat bankcats. The other side of that was that, if you ran your mouth, you were killed, or sent to Iraq. Either or.


Because otherwise...WTF?

[bluecuracao]

Oh great, do we have to bail Lehman out now? I thought they getting all split up.

I agree. Whenever this sort of thing happens, all the C_O's--present and especially most recent past--should have to pony up first. Seems like the guys who leave right before the shit hits the fan are the ones who are the most responsible for the mess.

[HungLikeJesus]

What's wrong with you people in Ohio?

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

What's wrong with you people in Ohio?

You mean because they are all voting McCain? I can answer this if this is your question.

[HungLikeJesus]

Originally Posted by Brianna

You mean because they are all voting McCain? I can answer this if this is your question.

I was making a reference to this thread. No offense intended.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

I was making a reference to this thread. No offense intended.

No offense taken.

I just cannot believe the nutjobs around here, supporting McCain. I USED to like him ok enough, but once he pulled that Cheap Trick, the scales fell from my eyes. He's too old and Sarah is a complete right wing saleswoman, courting the Evangelical crowd....blah,blah, you've heard it all before. I just CANNOT believe that, even NOW, people in Ohio support Bush (!!!) and want his clone in office.

I fondly look back on the days of Slick Willie. Blowjobs don't bother me, but blowing up other people---now that does bother me.

OMG! Maybe I'm becoming a socialist?! Cool! Then me and Dana can hang out more.

[footfootfoot]

Dash my hopes again why don't you. I thought the title of this thread was "Does anyone feel like balling?"

To quote Ms. Potter "...there was no end to the rage and disappointment..."

As for the topic, I didn't feel like bailing out Neil and Jeb, et al either, and I still feel it is a bad idea to foster and condone irresponsibility.

http://rationalrevolution.net/war/bu..._and_the_s.htm

Got this clip from Lehrer on pbs, 12 minutes of reasonable deabte on the subject.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/video/mo...17092008&seg=2

[skysidhe]

Problem is I don't BELIEVE Obama. I don't believe in him. I don't understand the vague ambiguities that come out of his mouth. I can't stand his smirky face.His finger flipping, lipstick poking politics. Congress is Democratic! and I am a democrat but I wanted Hillary as Pres. I am protesting but it won't be a protest vote, nor a color of the skin vote. It's a look at the facts about whom has done what.

Who will maybe actually do what they say?

As for bail-outs. It's better that we bail out our country than to hock it to China. What's left anyway.

[tw]

Originally Posted by skysidhe

Problem is I don't BELIEVE Obama. I don't believe in him. I don't understand the vague ambiguities that come out of his mouth. I can't stand his smirky face.His finger flipping, lipstick poking politics.

Then you must also hate McCain for same reasons.

Your emotions should never be reason for such decisions. Making a decision on how you 'feel' makes one the perfect patsy for Rush Limbaugh logic. How to get the naive to vote for you? Get them to think using emotion - decisions only based in first impressions. And yes, that is racism. Racism is not about race. Racism is also judging people only on first impressions.

McCain campaign has absorbed the George Jr wackos who, for example, got the VP selection changed to someone who represents wacko extremist agendas. Do you want someone who promotes the party agenda only because you feel?

George Sr had the same problem. He very much disliked the wacko extremists who eventually took major positions in his administration. He, like McCain, had no choice. Party power is located mostly among wackos which is why moderates (such as Sen Collins of Maine) survive with so little party support.

Do you want George Jr people in power? You get them when voting for McCain. Same people who cause George Sr so much aggravation. Same people who George Sr would not have had if given the choice.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

Then you must also hate McCain for same reasons.

I dislike both of them for pretty much the same reasons. First of all they are politicians and secondly, since getting the "nod" the extremists in both parties are now involved in their respective campaigns exponentially more than at the beginning. The leftist extremists are just as bad as the righty tighties.

What is your opinion of the top leftist whackos? I hate to assume this, but it seems as though you only shoot at the right and not both.