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02-15-2005, 07:40 AM | #1 |
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2/15/2005: Breastfeeding natural in Venezuela
This one appeared on Yahoo! Most Emailed, which is one of my regular haunts for images; and at first I didn't think much of it, but then jinx forwarded it along as well and she made a great point about it. I add her words here because she says it better than I could. What a great picture. In the US we still have women having to fight for the 'right' to breastfeed in public and dealing with rude remarks from people suggesting she should 'do that' in the the bathroom - and here's this Venezuelan woman openly breastfeeding while talking to the President of her country. Just imagine GWB in the same situation. I agree wholeheartedly, with one caution: in most other scenarios, W is a better role model than Chavez. |
02-15-2005, 09:58 AM | #2 |
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The guy behind Chavez looks a little reticent about it, though.
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02-15-2005, 10:03 AM | #3 |
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I don't think reticent is the word. I think I'd have had some problems looking the woman in the eye, too.
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02-15-2005, 10:41 AM | #4 |
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Because you just don't see it enough, right? If it were a common sight I doubt you'd give it a second thought.
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02-15-2005, 11:33 AM | #5 |
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Probably.
I was being more facetious than anything else. Personally, I think the American culture is overly obsessed with skin.
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02-15-2005, 04:58 PM | #6 | |
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It's a free country, which means that people–including the president, or your mayor, or your neighbor–are free to be uncomfortable with public breastfeeding. Why do you put 'right' in quotes as if it's presupposed? I don't have the 'right' to whip out my dong and jack off in public, which is just as natural an act as breastfeeding. So Venezuelans have different hangups than most Americans. Big deal! It's not that hard to find more discreet ways to feed your child. You, and I, may be fine with public breastfeeding, but why should you presume that it should be ok with everyone? Cultural relativism is weak, and even harmful, when carried to its extremes, but it's useful whenever you get the impulse to assert that one culture with values close to yours is inherently better or more advanced than another with different values. Sometimes it all really is just relative. |
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02-15-2005, 02:49 PM | #10 |
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Ah, right. NOT reticent that it was, then.
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02-15-2005, 04:29 PM | #11 |
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What's with the baby's shoes?
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02-16-2005, 11:54 AM | #13 |
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I agree and disagree here. Yes, discression is called for - mostly because here in the US, breasts are considered sexual. This does not mean, however, that breastfeeding should be hidden or shoved off into the restroom. There's absolutely nothing sexual about it whatsoever, aside from people seeing a boob and thinking, 'ooh! Sex!' (which is the biggest reason it makes so many people uncomfortable, I think)
Discression is as easy as a little baby blanket thrown over the shoulder, a shawl, a wide scarf, or shirts that are made with vents in them so as not to be hanging out all over or drawing attention to yourself. I nursed my babies just about wherever I went. I don't think many people ever noticed, much less became uncomfortable around me. |
02-15-2005, 05:04 PM | #14 |
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I find this a really tough balance to deal with in public. Firstly, infants shouldn't be permitted in a number of public places, such as the movie theater, etc, but, if stuffing their mouth with some boob gets them to be quiet, I'm all for it.
It's just, you know, some breasts aren't meant to be seen. And even the good ones get mixed emotion out of me when there's a squirming, squealing, poop-machine parasite trying to deflate it for all its worth. Last edited by Kitsune; 02-15-2005 at 05:16 PM. Reason: Needs a colored ribbon for unity! |
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