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07-31-2006, 11:59 AM
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Snowflake
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to fear the lord is to hate evil
I saw this messgae on a church billboard. I was amazed that somebody (or a group of people?) thought that this messgae made any sense whatsoever.
Off the top of my head, I first wondered whether fear or hate are useful states of mind. Next, I wondered whether evil even exists. Then, I wondered...the connection? :::baffled::: I am impressed that they managed to get absolutely nothing right in this message. And yet there it is, out there on the roadside, advertising: this is what we stand for. Join us.
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07-31-2006, 12:04 PM
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I think this line's mostly filler.
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Fear leads to anger, and anger leads to hate. So to fear the Lord is to hate the Lord. Therefore, the Lord is evil. QED.
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07-31-2006, 12:06 PM
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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07-31-2006, 01:25 PM
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"To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech." |
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07-31-2006, 04:29 PM
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to live and die in LA
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it's good to bear in mind that "fear" is a pretty thin word for what is a pretty thick concept in hebraic literature. Don't assume that what we see on quick read, 3,000 years later, is what was meant by the writer.
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07-31-2006, 06:21 PM
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Snowflake
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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08-08-2006, 04:19 PM
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Oh, great. And here I went and became Pagan for nothing. I thought I had to buy all of that stuff verbatim, and I just couldn't do that. 
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08-09-2006, 03:50 AM
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 I know and like several pagans, but I just don't see the point of going pagan. Ethical monotheism (viz., Dennis Prager) seems to me a step up.
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07-31-2006, 06:30 PM
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Meanings of words change with time.
In King James Version terms, to 'Fear', when talking about God, is synonymous with 'respect', 'reverence', 'piety', 'awe toward a supreme power', rather than 'afraid of.' I think we had a discussion of when gay used to mean happy, somewhere ...
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08-02-2006, 05:27 PM
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I've seen a lot worse things...advertised on billboards...things that are portrayed to the mass media. Is it because it's a church? Or is it because the wording didn't seem to make sense?
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08-02-2006, 09:17 PM
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Snowflake
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IE, how can you "live by" something that doesn't make any sense? It's like voluntary insanity.
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08-03-2006, 02:31 PM
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Those signs aren't recruiting posters, they're notices for those that have already enlisted....or been drafted. Mostly for the enlisted that have been derelict in their duties. That sign makes as much sense to you, as your tech manuals make to the janitor.....the words are familiar but the sentence doesn't make sense. You seem to think these "billboard" messages are some king of prophetic or profound ideologies. No, they're gimmicks to catch the attention of the recruits.....to get them thinking about the church....prod them to feel guilty about their dereliction of duty. You also seem to think the recruits take the tricks of the trade, seriously. Silly bunny...tricks are for kids. 
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08-03-2006, 03:01 PM
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08-04-2006, 03:49 PM
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Snowflake
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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08-02-2006, 09:48 PM
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~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~
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When I read signs like that I think it means if you are afraid of god sending to hell you will hate evil. Evil meaning anything that church finds unacceptable.
It could be anything. Gold earrings, body peircings, tatoos, rock and roll music Well those examples are on the extreme end but you get the idea. I think the word 'fear' is suppose to mean what wolf said but people are sheep with grown up sheep leaders leading them. Regurgitating the same ole spin. Fear and hate are not useful states of mind. If there is a thing as evil then I am pretty sure it's my brother and we should seek to understand how it operates in us? |
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