Snow Job

Pangloss62 · 06-06-2006, 08:07 AM

This new Press Secretery is exposing his dependence on teleprompters. Yesterday he really got all tongue-tied when he took a turn into a semantic dead end street:

WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY TONY SNOW: Whether it passes or not, as you know, Terry, there have been a number of cases where civil rights matters have risen on a number of occasions, and they've been brought up for repeated consideration by the United States Senate and other legislative bodies...

Q You mentioned civil rights. Are you comparing this to various civil rights measures which have come to the Congress over the years?

MR. SNOW: Not -- well, these -- it --

Q Is this a civil right?

MR. SNOW: Marriage? It actually -- what we're really talking about here is an attempt to try to maintain the traditional meaning of an institution that has maintained one meeting for -- meaning for a period of centuries. And furthermore --

Q And you would equate that with civil rights?

MR. SNOW: No, I'm just saying that I think -- well, I don't know. How do you define civil rights?

Q It's not up to me. Up to you.

MR. SNOW: Okay. Well, no, it's your question. So I -- if I --

Q (Chuckles.)

MR. SNOW: I need to get a more precise definition.

If this represents communication between the Press and the White House, It doesn't bode well for the future.

Happy Monkey · 06-06-2006, 08:46 AM

He was about to say that people had the civil right to make sure that other people didn't get married? No wonder he lost it.

MrVisible · 06-06-2006, 11:22 AM

I feel bad for him. His whole job consists of defending the indefensible.

Expect more fun scenes like these in days to come.

Pie · 06-06-2006, 12:23 PM

Yeah, well, he took the damn job. Same reason I have no sympathy for Colin Powell.
"Can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding."

Happy Monkey · 06-06-2006, 01:01 PM

There's a slight difference - Colin probably went in figuring he could make a contribution, then later thought he could mitigate, and took far too long (far too long - the UN presentation was inexcusable) to realize he was only lending them his veneer of respectability, and they couldn't care less what he said behind closed doors.

Tony Snow saw via Ari and Scott exactly what he was getting into from the start.

Pangloss62 · 06-06-2006, 02:08 PM

Seeing himself on TV reading from scripts and teleprompters probably made him think it was easy. Ego has a way of making you think you're better than you are, or that you could always be better than those before you. He's just not good with unscripted, cold questions (Just like W.).

Pie · 06-06-2006, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

There's a slight difference - Colin probably went in figuring he could make a contribution, then later thought he could mitigate, and took far too long (far too long - the UN presentation was inexcusable) to realize he was only lending them his veneer of respectability, and they couldn't care less what he said behind closed doors.

Then he should have resigned in protest the moment he realized what was going on. Anything else was unethical.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-06-2006, 04:08 PM

Maybe he resigned when he finally realized he couldn't change it?

Happy Monkey · 06-06-2006, 04:14 PM

Yeah. I think that's what happened. However, I do fault him for not reaching that point before the UN speech.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-06-2006, 04:18 PM

I concur.

06-06-2006, 08:07 AM	#1
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	Snow Job This new Press Secretery is exposing his dependence on teleprompters. Yesterday he really got all tongue-tied when he took a turn into a semantic dead end street: WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY TONY SNOW: Whether it passes or not, as you know, Terry, there have been a number of cases where civil rights matters have risen on a number of occasions, and they've been brought up for repeated consideration by the United States Senate and other legislative bodies... Q You mentioned civil rights. Are you comparing this to various civil rights measures which have come to the Congress over the years? MR. SNOW: Not -- well, these -- it -- Q Is this a civil right? MR. SNOW: Marriage? It actually -- what we're really talking about here is an attempt to try to maintain the traditional meaning of an institution that has maintained one meeting for -- meaning for a period of centuries. And furthermore -- Q And you would equate that with civil rights? MR. SNOW: No, I'm just saying that I think -- well, I don't know. How do you define civil rights? Q It's not up to me. Up to you. MR. SNOW: Okay. Well, no, it's your question. So I -- if I -- Q (Chuckles.) MR. SNOW: I need to get a more precise definition. If this represents communication between the Press and the White House, It doesn't bode well for the future. __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

06-06-2006, 08:46 AM	#2
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	He was about to say that people had the civil right to make sure that other people didn't get married? No wonder he lost it. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

06-06-2006, 11:22 AM	#3
MrVisible May Ter Dee Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 26	I feel bad for him. His whole job consists of defending the indefensible. Expect more fun scenes like these in days to come. __________________ Meanwhile, elsewhere...

06-06-2006, 12:23 PM	#4
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Yeah, well, he took the damn job. Same reason I have no sympathy for Colin Powell. "Can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding." __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

06-06-2006, 01:01 PM	#5
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	There's a slight difference - Colin probably went in figuring he could make a contribution, then later thought he could mitigate, and took far too long (far too long - the UN presentation was inexcusable) to realize he was only lending them his veneer of respectability, and they couldn't care less what he said behind closed doors. Tony Snow saw via Ari and Scott exactly what he was getting into from the start. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

06-06-2006, 02:08 PM	#6
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	Veneer Seeing himself on TV reading from scripts and teleprompters probably made him think it was easy. Ego has a way of making you think you're better than you are, or that you could always be better than those before you. He's just not good with unscripted, cold questions (Just like W.). __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

06-06-2006, 04:08 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Maybe he resigned when he finally realized he couldn't change it? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-06-2006, 04:14 PM	#9
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Yeah. I think that's what happened. However, I do fault him for not reaching that point before the UN speech. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

06-06-2006, 04:18 PM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I concur. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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