Shaping

wolf · 03-30-2006, 03:49 PM

There is a concept in behavioral psychology called shaping. By offering rewards for the preferred behavior, and ignoring the undesirable behavior, incidences of the preferred behavior increase. Say for example the purpose of the experiment was to increase the (unknowing) subject’s use of the word “the.” The experimenter would smile every time the subjected said “the” and remain straight-faced otherwise. Over even a short period of time, the use of the target word (or other desired behavior, such as looking to the right rather than at the examiner) should increase in frequency.

Elspode · 03-30-2006, 03:57 PM

Hee hee hee...

Whatever. As long as I get the cheese at the end of the maze.

glatt · 03-30-2006, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

Say for example the purpose of the experiment was to increase the (unknowing) subject’s use of the word “the.” The experimenter would smile every time the subjected said “the” and remain straight-faced otherwise.

But tw can't see you smile over the web.

wolf · 03-30-2006, 04:40 PM

xoxoxoBruce · 03-30-2006, 06:08 PM

I think the "ignoring the undesirable behavior" is key. Attention whores don't care if the response is positive or negative as long as there's a response.

zippyt · 03-30-2006, 11:23 PM

A broken cookie is still a cookie .

03-31-2006, 12:00 AM

Some day we'll all look back on this and snarl.

ashke · 03-31-2006, 12:05 AM

My friend said his class tried this experiment with a teacher in an elevator. All of them faced away from the entrance on purpose and the (unsuspecting) teacher soon followed. I wonder if it really worked...

SteveDallas · 04-01-2006, 06:31 PM

Bump

SteveBsjb · 04-01-2006, 06:37 PM

Shaping does work wonders on message boards. But isn't this thread another example of a response that would feed aforementioned "attention whores"?

Griff · 04-02-2006, 02:39 PM

It wouldn't matter in this case. It as as simple as ABC.
A - antecedent newbie comes to cellar.
B- behavior newbie craps on rug.
C- consequence we ignore (this means you Mari)

Now B- if Newbie installs new carpet
C- newbie gets a cookie.

The worrisome part is our community does not have control over reinforcing behaviors by fellow exiles or short tempered old timers.

04-02-2006, 05:16 PM

I AM short tempered, aren't I? Been that way since day one, too. I try to work on that with varying degrees of success. I do notice that I'm NOT the only one who has been ill tempered here lately, though.

I've been putting off packing and thinking about my up coming big scarey leap to a new town 400 miles from everything and everyone I've come to know here. Sniping at the AG'ers has been one of my forms of distraction.

In the future, you all can just remind me, "Go pack, Mari."

03-30-2006, 03:49 PM	#1
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Shaping There is a concept in behavioral psychology called shaping. By offering rewards for the preferred behavior, and ignoring the undesirable behavior, incidences of the preferred behavior increase. Say for example the purpose of the experiment was to increase the (unknowing) subject’s use of the word “the.” The experimenter would smile every time the subjected said “the” and remain straight-faced otherwise. Over even a short period of time, the use of the target word (or other desired behavior, such as looking to the right rather than at the examiner) should increase in frequency. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-30-2006, 03:57 PM	#2
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Hee hee hee... Whatever. As long as I get the cheese at the end of the maze. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

03-30-2006, 04:40 PM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	__________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-30-2006, 06:08 PM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I think the "ignoring the undesirable behavior" is key. Attention whores don't care if the response is positive or negative as long as there's a response. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-30-2006, 11:23 PM	#6
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	A broken cookie is still a cookie . __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

03-31-2006, 12:00 AM	#7
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Some day we'll all look back on this and snarl.

03-31-2006, 12:05 AM	#8
ashke Don't look at me! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 288	My friend said his class tried this experiment with a teacher in an elevator. All of them faced away from the entrance on purpose and the (unsuspecting) teacher soon followed. I wonder if it really worked...

04-01-2006, 06:31 PM	#9
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	Bump

04-01-2006, 06:37 PM	#10
SteveBsjb Operations Operative Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Moved from Manhattan to Edgewater, NJ. Posts: 713	Shaping does work wonders on message boards. But isn't this thread another example of a response that would feed aforementioned "attention whores"? __________________ "It's only an internet community."

04-02-2006, 02:39 PM	#11
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	It wouldn't matter in this case. It as as simple as ABC. A - antecedent newbie comes to cellar. B- behavior newbie craps on rug. C- consequence we ignore (this means you Mari) Now B- if Newbie installs new carpet C- newbie gets a cookie. The worrisome part is our community does not have control over reinforcing behaviors by fellow exiles or short tempered old timers. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

04-02-2006, 05:16 PM	#12
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	I AM short tempered, aren't I? Been that way since day one, too. I try to work on that with varying degrees of success. I do notice that I'm NOT the only one who has been ill tempered here lately, though. I've been putting off packing and thinking about my up coming big scarey leap to a new town 400 miles from everything and everyone I've come to know here. Sniping at the AG'ers has been one of my forms of distraction. In the future, you all can just remind me, "Go pack, Mari."

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