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|  04-22-2016, 08:45 PM | #1096 | 
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			Yeah, the thing about the 1 in 45 number is the very DAY after I did that interview, the CDC announced that while this is one of their typical benchmark studies for their "official" numbers, they are waiting until the other benchmark studies come out with their latest numbers later this year, before deciding on a new average. So officially it's still 1 in 68 according to the CDC, but that will change in the late fall, I imagine.
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|  04-22-2016, 11:04 PM | #1097 | 
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			Do they have the same stats for non immunized kids?
		 
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|  04-24-2016, 03:10 AM | #1098 | 
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			Congress ordered the CDC to gather those stats in the late nineties, if I have my dates right. The CDC ignored them, claiming that by definition any study that required non-immunized kids, even volunteers, was unethical.  Jenny McCarthy's nonprofit did the study, 100,000 random surveys by phone, found the rate was much lower in non-immunized and much higher in partially-immunized (presumably because in cases where there's an obvious regression parents stop,) but no one listens to her anymore. | 
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|  04-24-2016, 03:12 AM | #1099 | 
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			It should be noted, however, that the stats for non-immunized kids are not zero.
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|  04-24-2016, 03:18 AM | #1100 | 
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			What age is the oldest you've heard of for symptoms to appear? Or does that get twisted by parents in denial until somebody in the school system runs up a flag?
		 
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|  04-24-2016, 03:44 AM | #1101 | 
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			I've heard of major developmental regressions as late as three-and-a-half. Diagnoses any later than that are usually either "there's nothing wrong with a nonverbal 5 year old" denial, or "he's always been a little different, but we didn't know what it was" at like 12 or 13 or even adulthood for high-functioning kids. I've seen/heard of sudden extreme onset of PANDAS at a variety of ages though, as late as maybe 15.
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|  04-26-2016, 04:03 AM | #1102 | ||
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			Saw this in the Guardian and thought it might be of interest: Quote: 
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|  04-26-2016, 05:50 AM | #1103 | 
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			Could be very helpful for people who need it. Although I predict it will be the elderly who take advantage of it the most.
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			I'm worn out and trying to force myself to look at the positive things in life today, so excuse me while I gratuitously pat myself on the back for a moment. It's okay, see, because I've been instructed to. Quote: 
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|  07-01-2016, 04:46 PM | #1105 | 
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			It's nice to see critics that know what the fuck they're talking about.    
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|  07-01-2016, 05:22 PM | #1106 | 
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|  07-01-2016, 06:58 PM | #1107 | 
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			Congratulations Clodfobble.
		 
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|  07-01-2016, 07:10 PM | #1108 | 
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			I forgot to mention it's in 3 more libraries.
		 
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|  07-01-2016, 07:13 PM | #1109 | 
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			Dude! Thanks so much.    | 
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|  07-01-2016, 09:48 PM | #1110 | 
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			Clobble,  you have always given me an intellectual boner.   It's been more than 4 hours.  I need medical assistance.
		 
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