Understanding terrorism

Actually, Mr. Noodle, only poor black folks are allowed to be Christian. We concede this to them as part of our liberal guilt. Black folks who are part of the middle class we don't feel guilty over, and they are not allowed to be Christian, either.

All conflicts are completely the fault of the USA - no indirect about it. The US is wrong every time. It was even wrong to shoot back at Pearl Harbour since this was an example of prejudice against the Japanese. We should have been nicer to them.

We should never beg the UN for help. Its all our fault and we should accept the consequences of our evil Americaness.

Jag is a commie and so am I - oh no, wait - I'm the facist.

Just wanted to clarify for you before I start my daily morning flag burning. :p

[lookout123]

marichiko - your writing style and tone is pretty different from the past. has there been some significant breakthrough in your condition?

Originally Posted by lookout123

marichiko - your writing style and tone is pretty different from the past. has there been some significant breakthrough in your condition?

I'm getting medical treatment and voc rehab, Lookout. I'm proving those doctors wrong and growing new neural passageways or synapses or something. Yea, me! I'm volunteering as an advocate for the disabled in my area and getting in some part time hours at a job through the Ticket to Work Program. I WILL get completely off SSDI! YES!

[Mr.Anon.E.Mouse]

Originally Posted by mrnoodle

urbane guerrilla.

you know you aren't going to win this argument, though. your opponents don't accept any position that isn't anti-US. before opening your big mouth in the future, make sure your argument is based on the following suppositions:

(1) No religion is extreme except Christianity (as practiced by whitey)*

(2) All conflicts are, directly or indirectly, caused by the USA.

(3) Because of (2), if we are attacked, we are NOT to respond. We are to humbly cast our gaze upon the poor, pillaged Earth that our white people ruined, and try to understand why our enemies are so mad at us. Once we've determined our error, we must (humbly) beseech the United Nations to intervene on our behalf and determine what measures we must take to ensure that the offended party will no longer have reason to hate us.

(4) jaguar is a pinko, so even if you abide by points 1-3, you're still wrong. Your only recourse is to say 8 Hail Karls while masturbating furiously over a burning American flag.

* — Blacks are allowed by libs to be Christian, because they are better at singing gospel music (vocal ad-libs, matchy robes, swaying), and because Martin Luther King was a preacher.

Man, Mr. Noodle, this is too true and a daily source of so much frustration for me. When the hell did folks get so dogmatic about their thinking? Personally, I attribute it to laziness. It seems to be easier to be a lock-step hater or even, for that matter, a lock-step ass-puppet for whatever Authority has to say. (Sorry, can I say 'ass-puppet?' I'm new and don't want to offend.) I'd love to know when everything became to black and white or, currently, red and blue.

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by Mr.Anon.E.Mouse

(Sorry, can I say 'ass-puppet?' I'm new and don't want to offend.)

Don't worry about offending anyone here.. its a daily thing. Just as long as you can back up what you say, or just fart and leave like Bruce suggests

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Oh, yes it would be -- we all aspire to greater-than-trailer-trashiness, at least in our heart of hearts, even if we fear we wouldn't be as politically correct to be the animals more equal than the others.

Nyah.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

I'd further remark that Jaguar's "level of understanding" remark suggests he believes his understanding of these matters to be better than mine.

Since his kind of "understanding" is actually a wispy disguise for rationalization for doing nothing at all against the evil that men have to do to work tyranny, totalitarianism, or indeed anything but democracy, it should not be called "understanding" at all, but instead called what it is.

[BigV]

American Islamic Scholars Issue Fatwa Against Terrorism

I'm not in the mood to find those posters who indignantly called for Muslims to forcefully denounce the actions of a vanishingly small minority done in the name of Islam. You know who you are. Perhaps this item will offer you comfort.

U.S. Muslim groups have frequently condemned terrorist acts, but the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Nihad Awad, says issuing a fatwa is the strongest statement that can be made by the Islamic community.

"This is the heaviest weight any opinion can be given. The reason I am saying this is because those who commit acts of terror in the name of Islam try to misinterpret and misuse certain issues in Islamic jurisprudence and they have no authority or qualification except their anger. These legal Muslim scholars come to say we are the authority on this subject and we are the ones who determine how to interpret Islam. Therefore, I don't think any person in the globe can quote the Koran or the traditions of the Prophet [Muhammad] to justify the harming and the killing of innocent people," he said.

[xoxoxoBruce]

HOORAY! It is long overdue.

[richlevy]

They even did better than the Vatican by not blaming the victims.

Priests for Life denounces the incidents of violence that have occurred against abortion providers. Echoing Pope John Paul II, we declare that "not even a murderer loses his personal dignity" (EV #9).

We also denounce the efforts continuously made by abortion advocates to blame pro-life groups for that violence. If anything, the violence done against abortionists is encouraged by the mentality and actions of those who promote abortion. Briefly, here's why.

[Undertoad]

Better than the Vatican by not suggesting that retaliation against terror is bad. "We were all set to denounce the terror attack, but the stupid Jews blew up the people responsible before we could say anything."

[Hobbs]

This just in Chicago Trib. Another item inline with BigVs:

Muslim scholars: Terrorists not martyrs

Items compiled from Tribune news services
Published July 29, 2005


WASHINGTON, D.C. -- American Muslim scholars on Thursday carried out their plan to issue an edict condemning religious extremism and calling terrorists "criminals, not `martyrs.'"

The 18-member Fiqh Council of North America said Muslims were barred from helping "any individual or group that is involved in any act of terrorism or violence."

"There is no justification in Islam for extremism or terrorism," the scholars wrote in the edict, called a fatwa. "Targeting civilians' life and property through suicide bombings or any other method of attack is haram--or forbidden."

The fatwa states that Muslims are obligated to help "protect the lives of all civilians."

Islam has no central authority, and the council serves an advisory role for U.S. Muslims.


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This sort of thing needs to spread to other muslim countries. Unfortunately, those guys over there don't recognize these guys over here as true islam followers. It's a start.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Hobbs

This just in Chicago Trib. Another item inline with BigVs:

This sort of thing needs to spread to other muslim countries. Unfortunately, those guys over there don't recognize these guys over here as true islam followers. It's a start.

Perhaps, but the guys over here recognize the guys over there as criminals, not as martyrs. The mantle of religious justification has been removed, with authority. Unfortunately, like any legal system, the laws only restrain the law abiders, not the lawbreakers. This is not an Islamic phenomenon.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by BigV

Unfortunately, like any legal system, the laws only restrain the law abiders, not the lawbreakers. This is not an Islamic phenomenon.

More relevantly, and also not an Islamic phenomenon, laws only restrain anybody within their jurisdiction. As Fareed Zacharia said on the Daily Show, (paraphrased) Islam has no Pope, so there's nobody to say [worldwide] that terrorism isn't kosher. A fatwa will only be observed by those who recognize the authority of the issuer.

[Hobbs]

Even if islam had a "Pope," it still wouldn't help. Look how many so called "Christian" religeons we have. Catholics have the Pope, but there were those who disagree with the Catholic church so they break away. Now you have Episcipalian. You got Protestant, Baptist, Lutheran, Mormon, all believing that they are right and the other is wrong. If there was a central islamic figurehead, the extermist would still do what they want, citing that their interest are a much better way for islam and would find and distort scripture to back it up.