Iraq is nearly over. BTW we won. - Page 6

Sundae · 07-25-2008, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Republicans made the effort to sink international Communism, and they succeeded. Democrats, not so much. We'd like to think Kennedy might've, but we'll never know.

Goodness. And I bet Eastern Europeans never even bothered to thank them. The selfish gets.

I assume they're working on sinking it in China now? Ooh, fingers crossed Obama doesn't get in then, China might stay Communist otherwise.

deadbeater · 07-28-2008, 05:18 PM

The Eastern Europeans were a little too obsessed with Solidarity demonstrating how a worker's union can make real change in a society, and overthrow governments. Come to think of it, Karl Marx was proven right all along, hee hee.

Urbane Guerrilla · 07-30-2008, 10:41 PM

I'm not sure I get the points made in posts 75 and 76. If they are moved to clarify, I'm sure I'd appreciate it.

Though deadbeater seems to be saying syndicalism rules.

And a correction: John Keegan didn't say it, Steven Ambrose did. Drat this absence of mind.

Sundae, it looks like they won't have to: the Chinese seem to be developing their way out of Communism, and will in due course abandon it as the state religion also. Good riddance, of course.

But the Democratic Party has an indelible record of nil accomplishment in tyranny removal since the Second World War. That's three generations ago now. That's too long. See why they don't deserve my support? I vote for everybody but them. That is, everybody who's smarter.

If you want the world to become better, you do a few things. You globalize, you educate women too, not just men; and you eliminate tyranny, replacing it with democracy or the constitutional-monarchic equivalent. And you're ruthless with anyone who tries to impede the great liberation.

TheMercenary · 07-31-2008, 07:55 PM

(note: From http://www.blackfive.net/)

NPR: Was the Surge Successful?
Posted By Blackfive
I like NPR. They are one of the very few media outlets that have treated me extremely fairly.

But here, in this NPR interview with General (retired) Jack Keane, you can hear the bias of host Alex Chadwick, and the surprise in the response of GEN (ret) Keane - one of the architects of the Surge. I think it's important to hear both Alex Chadwick and Jack Keane discuss the events around the Surge.

To me, this is an indication of the level of effort being made to spin away the Surge as not successful or due to the the planning and efforts of our active military and people like GEN (ret) Keane and David Kilcullen.

It is horribly false for anyone to claim that the Surge is not a success. Make no mistake, there's a long way to go, but some people on the left seemed determined to throw our progress away.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...94&ft=1&f=1001

Undertoad · 07-31-2008, 09:56 PM

Dwellars know, but somebody forgot to tell half of all Americans. The narrative change, for them, leads closer to election season. Oopsie! A whole lot of confused people, coming up!

13 casualties in July - lowest monthly total so far - 5 of those were non-combat

Undertoad · 07-31-2008, 10:03 PM

KFC Fallujah.

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The restaurant has several employees, and three that work full time. Employees there serve an average 25 customers per day.

This is not really a great return, but they've gotta start somewhere. Hopefully in a few years they can install in a mall food court.

Undertoad · 08-02-2008, 12:33 PM

Washington Post notices. Page A01.

Surge in numbers of troops is over:

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The last of five additional combat brigades sent to Iraq last year left in July, leaving about 140,000 U.S. troops in the country. About 130,000 were in Iraq before the buildup began.

Deployment times drop:

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Starting Friday, Bush said, troop deployments in Iraq will shorten from 15 months to 12. The policy, first announced in April, applies to troops heading to Iraq but not those already stationed there.

TheMercenary · 08-04-2008, 08:22 AM

About time. Our guys down here are getting hammered by the deployments. And the ones that just returned, from the surge, are already slated to go again in 9 months. 3-ID out of Ft. Stewart and Hunter AF.

Radar · 08-06-2008, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

KFC Fallujah.

This is not really a great return, but they've gotta start somewhere. Hopefully in a few years they can install in a mall food court.

Am I to believe that having a KFC or a food court is a sign that things are better than not having one?

Undertoad · 08-06-2008, 10:20 AM

You believe whatever you like, sunshine.

Radar · 08-06-2008, 10:21 AM

You know I always do sparky.

Undertoad · 08-06-2008, 10:23 AM

So there's no need to actually post about it.

Radar · 08-06-2008, 12:15 PM

There is a need to question whether this is what someone wants others to believe. That is why I asked the question.

Undertoad · 08-06-2008, 12:56 PM

You can't discern that without asking?

Radar · 08-06-2008, 01:51 PM

I find the best way to answer a question is to ask someone who knows the answer rather than trying to guess or to be a detective. Without asking, I could only speculate as to motives, desires, or goals of others, but asking the them gives me a concrete answer that isn't merely a speculation.

07-30-2008, 10:41 PM	#78
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	I'm not sure I get the points made in posts 75 and 76. If they are moved to clarify, I'm sure I'd appreciate it. Though deadbeater seems to be saying syndicalism rules. And a correction: John Keegan didn't say it, Steven Ambrose did. Drat this absence of mind. Sundae, it looks like they won't have to: the Chinese seem to be developing their way out of Communism, and will in due course abandon it as the state religion also. Good riddance, of course. But the Democratic Party has an indelible record of nil accomplishment in tyranny removal since the Second World War. That's three generations ago now. That's too long. See why they don't deserve my support? I vote for everybody but them. That is, everybody who's smarter. If you want the world to become better, you do a few things. You globalize, you educate women too, not just men; and you eliminate tyranny, replacing it with democracy or the constitutional-monarchic equivalent. And you're ruthless with anyone who tries to impede the great liberation. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course. Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 07-30-2008 at 10:52 PM.

07-31-2008, 07:55 PM	#79
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	(note: From http://www.blackfive.net/) NPR: Was the Surge Successful? Posted By Blackfive I like NPR. They are one of the very few media outlets that have treated me extremely fairly. But here, in this NPR interview with General (retired) Jack Keane, you can hear the bias of host Alex Chadwick, and the surprise in the response of GEN (ret) Keane - one of the architects of the Surge. I think it's important to hear both Alex Chadwick and Jack Keane discuss the events around the Surge. To me, this is an indication of the level of effort being made to spin away the Surge as not successful or due to the the planning and efforts of our active military and people like GEN (ret) Keane and David Kilcullen. It is horribly false for anyone to claim that the Surge is not a success. Make no mistake, there's a long way to go, but some people on the left seemed determined to throw our progress away. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...94&ft=1&f=1001 __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

08-04-2008, 08:22 AM	#83
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	About time. Our guys down here are getting hammered by the deployments. And the ones that just returned, from the surge, are already slated to go again in 9 months. 3-ID out of Ft. Stewart and Hunter AF. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

08-06-2008, 10:21 AM	#86
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	You know I always do sparky. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

08-06-2008, 12:15 PM	#88
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	There is a need to question whether this is what someone wants others to believe. That is why I asked the question. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

07-28-2008, 05:18 PM	#77
deadbeater Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 439	The Eastern Europeans were a little too obsessed with Solidarity demonstrating how a worker's union can make real change in a society, and overthrow governments. Come to think of it, Karl Marx was proven right all along, hee hee.

07-31-2008, 09:56 PM	#80
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Dwellars know, but somebody forgot to tell half of all Americans. The narrative change, for them, leads closer to election season. Oopsie! A whole lot of confused people, coming up! 13 casualties in July - lowest monthly total so far - 5 of those were non-combat

08-06-2008, 10:20 AM	#85
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	You believe whatever you like, sunshine.

08-06-2008, 10:23 AM	#87
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	So there's no need to actually post about it.

08-06-2008, 12:56 PM	#89
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	You can't discern that without asking?

08-06-2008, 01:51 PM	#90
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	I find the best way to answer a question is to ask someone who knows the answer rather than trying to guess or to be a detective. Without asking, I could only speculate as to motives, desires, or goals of others, but asking the them gives me a concrete answer that isn't merely a speculation. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

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