Third Party Debate

TheSnake · 09-07-2004, 12:42 PM

Tuesday of the Repulican National Convention, the Green and Libertarian Parties held a debate in New York. C-Span is now airing this debate, in case anyone is interested in watching it.

jaguar · 09-07-2004, 12:53 PM

Well, it'd be pretty amusing.

TheSnake · 09-07-2004, 02:40 PM

I'm sorry you're so dismissive.

jaguar · 09-07-2004, 02:52 PM

3rd parties are great but they don't really work in the US political system for a variety of situational and structural reasons. Unsurprisingly really I always end up voting for a 3rd party, Greens in AU (they'd suck in power but make a good moderator in the Upper house), Liberal Democrats in the UK. The idea of libertarians verses greens I found funny, sorry but you couldn't find two groups who would be more ideologically opposed, commuists and fascists would have more in common. I can't think what kind of political middle ground they could find to argue over. I mean somehow 'the government should strengthen anti-pollution legislation verses 'the government should disband the EPA' just doesn't really work.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-07-2004, 09:38 PM

Listening to the extremes debating an issue could cause the listener to find the middle ground.
They can both bash Bush. :hafucking

Happy Monkey · 09-26-2004, 09:46 AM

Here's the agreement they'd have to sign to get in on the Kerry/Bush debates... Though I expect it's not easy to get the invite:

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3. Participants
If one or more candidates from campaigns other than the two (2) signatories is invited to participate pursuant to those Selection Criteria, those candidates shall be included in the debates, if those candidates accept the terms of this agreement.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-26-2004, 06:10 PM

32 pages of rules!

It would be easier to stage a World Heavyweight Title Fight.
But then again, I guess there's more at stake. I'm sure Don King would love to have a piece of this.

Griff · 09-26-2004, 07:24 PM

In theory there might be some agreement on decentralizing power and enforcing environmental standards. The enviro stuff is difficult because of the philosophical differences but I recently listened to RFK jr making the green case using property rights rhetoric, it's not hopeless. Anyway debates are for debating so why not just listen to the two different approaches. At least these guys can say what they mean since the don't have a chance in..

09-07-2004, 12:42 PM	#1
TheSnake Resident President Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 83	Third Party Debate Tuesday of the Repulican National Convention, the Green and Libertarian Parties held a debate in New York. C-Span is now airing this debate, in case anyone is interested in watching it.

09-07-2004, 12:53 PM	#2
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Well, it'd be pretty amusing. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

09-07-2004, 02:52 PM	#4
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	3rd parties are great but they don't really work in the US political system for a variety of situational and structural reasons. Unsurprisingly really I always end up voting for a 3rd party, Greens in AU (they'd suck in power but make a good moderator in the Upper house), Liberal Democrats in the UK. The idea of libertarians verses greens I found funny, sorry but you couldn't find two groups who would be more ideologically opposed, commuists and fascists would have more in common. I can't think what kind of political middle ground they could find to argue over. I mean somehow 'the government should strengthen anti-pollution legislation verses 'the government should disband the EPA' just doesn't really work. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

09-07-2004, 09:38 PM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Listening to the extremes debating an issue could cause the listener to find the middle ground. They can both bash Bush. :hafucking __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-26-2004, 06:10 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	32 pages of rules! It would be easier to stage a World Heavyweight Title Fight. But then again, I guess there's more at stake. I'm sure Don King would love to have a piece of this. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-07-2004, 02:40 PM	#3
TheSnake Resident President Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 83	I'm sorry you're so dismissive.

09-26-2004, 07:24 PM	#8
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	In theory there might be some agreement on decentralizing power and enforcing environmental standards. The enviro stuff is difficult because of the philosophical differences but I recently listened to RFK jr making the green case using property rights rhetoric, it's not hopeless. Anyway debates are for debating so why not just listen to the two different approaches. At least these guys can say what they mean since the don't have a chance in.. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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