Sound recorder help

elSicomoro · 07-20-2003, 12:05 PM

My plan at the moment is to resurrect the musical aspect of Sycamore as a spoken-word project. I figure I can record directly onto the computer, edit the tracks, burn CDs, and sell them to Cellar Dwellars for a discount.

The primary obstacle is the Sound Recorder itself, as it only gives a 60-second limit on recording a file. I could always splice pieces together, but that's a pain in the ass. So, my questions are:

1) Is there a way to change the limit on the sound recorder's recording time?

And if not,

2) Does anyone know of any good yet inexpensive recording software?

bmgb · 07-20-2003, 02:19 PM

Total Recorder

elSicomoro · 07-20-2003, 02:21 PM

bm, do you use it? Is it any good?

vsp · 07-20-2003, 02:53 PM

TotalRecorder is AWESOME. It will pull sound from any application you're running or from the Line In/Mic jacks of your sound card, stop recording when the sound level drops to 0% (long pauses, end of an album, etc.), allow you to trim the clipped sound down to whatever portion you want, and save it directly to a .wav or .mp3 file.

It's the only elegant solution I've found for capturing ShoutCast streams, and it's cheap to register.

SteveDallas · 07-20-2003, 02:53 PM

I've used it to record RealAudio stuff. It does a pretty good job. But I haven't really compared it to anything else. I do know that Nero Burning and Roxio Easy CD Creator both come with audio recording apps... I used the Easy CD one to take some stuff off an LP once. So you might try that first if you have either one of those programs.

bmgb · 07-20-2003, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
bm, do you use it? Is it any good?

I haven't used it in a while. But everybody I know who does PC sound recording uses it and thinks it's the shiznit.

Bitman · 07-20-2003, 03:39 PM

Total Recorder isn't entirely appropriate; it's a tool for capturing the audio from apps that don't really want to let it out, like Real Audio. You're looking for a sound production app where you can record, edit, and mix. WaveLab and Sound Forge are the canonical high-end apps, but Cool Edit is much more affordable. However, they were just bought by Adobe, so the price may start going up.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-20-2003, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Our programs will record into a WAV file. WAV files are the industry standard for PC based audio recordings. If you don't already have a CD burner, then you must get one..........You will get software with the burner that will allow you to copy the .wav files over to the CD

It appears They agree with you.

OnyxCougar · 07-20-2003, 11:19 PM

You can also make sound recorder go longer than 60 seconds. Just open it up and hit record, and then play with the slider, it lengthens the recording time available. Then you just back it up and hit record all over again and actually record what you want. It's kind of a round about way of going about it, and I'm sure there's an easier way, but that's what I've always done.

Elspode · 07-20-2003, 11:21 PM

Since I'm assuming that Syc will soon settle on the application he will be using for his recording project, I would also like to drop a piece of advice along technical lines, here.

Never underestimate the value of a good quality microphone. For decent results in recording both music and spoken word, you really, really ought to have a condensor mic. There are some very reasonably priced units out there these days...

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...base_id/101887

This link leads to the lowest price battery-powered condensor mic around. I've read several good things about it for artists on a budget.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=41466

The second link will show you the mic I'm most familiar with...the Equitek CAD E-100. I've been using this mic for about five years now, and it is an excellent buy.

Both these mics have the advantage of being battery powered, meaning you do not need phantom power to use them (condensor mics require power, unlike dynamic mics).

There are numerous other considerations to get a good quality project, but this is a very good place to start.

Uryoces · 07-24-2003, 01:14 PM

I like Silent Bob. It does a fairly good job of recording from the line in. I've copied over some cassettes and made CD's and MP3's from them with fairly good results. I used Audacity to clean up some Bill Cosby tapes my brother loaned me. It did a great job of making it presentable.

Oh yeah. These programs are free and/ or open source.

Beestie · 07-25-2003, 12:07 PM

Been using it for a long time to record music off the net, re-mix CDs, etc.

It ain't cheep (US$80) but it is really excellent.

Sonic Foundry

juju · 07-25-2003, 01:15 PM

How about Audacity? It's free, easy to use, and it doesn't have 1000 obscure options that you'll never figure out. You'll need 'Lame' if you want Audacity to save your recordings in mp3 format. You can download that here.

Undertoad · 07-25-2003, 03:50 PM

The Actual Retail Price of Sound Forge is more like $350!

elSicomoro · 07-25-2003, 04:04 PM

I'm going to play with Steinberg Cubase for a bit, to see what it can do, and what I can do.

Look for the debut Sycamore CD in early '04.

07-20-2003, 12:05 PM	#1
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Sound recorder help My plan at the moment is to resurrect the musical aspect of Sycamore as a spoken-word project. I figure I can record directly onto the computer, edit the tracks, burn CDs, and sell them to Cellar Dwellars for a discount. The primary obstacle is the Sound Recorder itself, as it only gives a 60-second limit on recording a file. I could always splice pieces together, but that's a pain in the ass. So, my questions are: 1) Is there a way to change the limit on the sound recorder's recording time? And if not, 2) Does anyone know of any good yet inexpensive recording software?

07-20-2003, 02:19 PM	#2
bmgb Master of the Domain Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: MN Posts: 231	Total Recorder __________________ That gun will replace your tongue. You will learn to speak through it. And your poetry will be written in blood. - Nobody

07-20-2003, 11:19 PM	#9
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	You can also make sound recorder go longer than 60 seconds. Just open it up and hit record, and then play with the slider, it lengthens the recording time available. Then you just back it up and hit record all over again and actually record what you want. It's kind of a round about way of going about it, and I'm sure there's an easier way, but that's what I've always done. __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

07-20-2003, 11:21 PM	#10
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Since I'm assuming that Syc will soon settle on the application he will be using for his recording project, I would also like to drop a piece of advice along technical lines, here. Never underestimate the value of a good quality microphone. For decent results in recording both music and spoken word, you really, really ought to have a condensor mic. There are some very reasonably priced units out there these days... http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...base_id/101887 This link leads to the lowest price battery-powered condensor mic around. I've read several good things about it for artists on a budget. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=41466 The second link will show you the mic I'm most familiar with...the Equitek CAD E-100. I've been using this mic for about five years now, and it is an excellent buy. Both these mics have the advantage of being battery powered, meaning you do not need phantom power to use them (condensor mics require power, unlike dynamic mics). There are numerous other considerations to get a good quality project, but this is a very good place to start. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

07-24-2003, 01:14 PM	#11
Uryoces 2nd Covenant, yo Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pugetropolis Posts: 583	I like Silent Bob. It does a fairly good job of recording from the line in. I've copied over some cassettes and made CD's and MP3's from them with fairly good results. I used Audacity to clean up some Bill Cosby tapes my brother loaned me. It did a great job of making it presentable. Oh yeah. These programs are free and/ or open source. __________________ The party's over ... the drink ... and the luck ... ran out. Last edited by Uryoces; 07-24-2003 at 01:23 PM.

07-20-2003, 02:21 PM	#3
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	bm, do you use it? Is it any good?

07-20-2003, 02:53 PM	#4
vsp Syndrome of a Down Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: West Chester Posts: 1,367	TotalRecorder is AWESOME. It will pull sound from any application you're running or from the Line In/Mic jacks of your sound card, stop recording when the sound level drops to 0% (long pauses, end of an album, etc.), allow you to trim the clipped sound down to whatever portion you want, and save it directly to a .wav or .mp3 file. It's the only elegant solution I've found for capturing ShoutCast streams, and it's cheap to register.

07-20-2003, 02:53 PM	#5
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	I've used it to record RealAudio stuff. It does a pretty good job. But I haven't really compared it to anything else. I do know that Nero Burning and Roxio Easy CD Creator both come with audio recording apps... I used the Easy CD one to take some stuff off an LP once. So you might try that first if you have either one of those programs.

07-20-2003, 03:39 PM	#7
Bitman cellar smellar Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: californy, baby! Posts: 403	Total Recorder isn't entirely appropriate; it's a tool for capturing the audio from apps that don't really want to let it out, like Real Audio. You're looking for a sound production app where you can record, edit, and mix. WaveLab and Sound Forge are the canonical high-end apps, but Cool Edit is much more affordable. However, they were just bought by Adobe, so the price may start going up.

07-25-2003, 12:07 PM	#12
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	Try SoundForge Been using it for a long time to record music off the net, re-mix CDs, etc. It ain't cheep (US$80) but it is really excellent. Sonic Foundry __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

07-25-2003, 01:15 PM	#13
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	How about Audacity? It's free, easy to use, and it doesn't have 1000 obscure options that you'll never figure out. You'll need 'Lame' if you want Audacity to save your recordings in mp3 format. You can download that here. Last edited by juju; 07-25-2003 at 01:31 PM.

07-25-2003, 03:50 PM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The Actual Retail Price of Sound Forge is more like $350!

07-25-2003, 04:04 PM	#15
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I'm going to play with Steinberg Cubase for a bit, to see what it can do, and what I can do. Look for the debut Sycamore CD in early '04.

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