CA on fire

xoxoxoBruce · 03-31-2007, 02:27 AM

The season is starting early, shame the National Guard's out of town.
That's the Hollywood Hills, in case you didn't know.

TheMercenary · 03-31-2007, 07:50 AM

I really want to know when it is going to fall into the ocean.

elSicomoro · 03-31-2007, 10:59 AM

I used to think that way about California, but after I visited it, my opinion changed. California is beautiful...it's just the people that are crazy. And it's not all of them...just a lot of 'em.

TheMercenary · 03-31-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sycamore

I used to think that way about California, but after I visited it, my opinion changed. California is beautiful...it's just the people that are crazy. And it's not all of them...just a lot of 'em.

So basically what you are saying is that Neutron Bomb is in order and I should stop waiting for it to fall in the ocean?

I thought N. Calif was stunning. Southern Calif is more like Mexico.

Sheldonrs · 03-31-2007, 11:30 AM

I lived near there for a long time. The fires happen every year and I thought they were beautiful to watch. I probably would think less of them if it was my stuff burning though.
What I never understood was why would someone re-build over and over again in the same place when it keeps burning every few years?

elSicomoro · 03-31-2007, 11:59 AM

I guess it's like the people that want to rebuild in the Lower 9th in Nola, or the people that rebuilt in St. Louis after the 1993 floods. I'd say part of it is sentimental attachment and another part of it is just being ornery. "Oh, you don't think I should rebuild here? Well, fuck you! I'm gonna do it anyway!"

I might rebuild once, but a second time? That's probably God telling me to go.

Sheldonrs · 03-31-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sycamore

I guess it's like the people that want to rebuild in the Lower 9th in Nola, or the people that rebuilt in St. Louis after the 1993 floods. I'd say part of it is sentimental attachment and another part of it is just being ornery. "Oh, you don't think I should rebuild here? Well, fuck you! I'm gonna do it anyway!"

I might rebuild once, but a second time? That's probably God telling me to go.

If only the idiots in Malibu took the hint. Fires, floods and mudslides every year and they still stay!
And it's not really all that great a place. Too foggy in the mornings.

Undertoad · 03-31-2007, 01:10 PM

Rebuild on anchored concrete stilts I say!

Be the one house on your block to survive... AND thus catch all the debris of the other houses on the block! It's looting without the hard work!

footfootfoot · 03-31-2007, 01:46 PM

How is California like granola?

If you get rid of all the fruits and nuts the only thing left is the flakes.

Bullitt · 04-01-2007, 12:32 AM

A little fire don't scare me! I'm still moving out there to teach in the Capistrano Unified School District in three years.
If it breaks off into the ocean, that just means two coasts!

Beestie · 04-01-2007, 03:22 AM

California is too beautiful to say no to.

But for a series of events over which I had little control I would be a permanent resident of California. Northern California, that is. Southern Cal just didn't work for me at all.

wolf · 04-01-2007, 12:35 PM

You know, I've often said that I wouldn't piss on California if it was on fire, and look! Here's my opportunity!

Does anyone know the extent to which the fires are the result of "environmental" regs that don't allow communities to clear brush and cut firebreaks?

xoxoxoBruce · 04-01-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

What I never understood was why would someone re-build over and over again in the same place when it keeps burning every few years?

Insurance pays for the loss, and in a few years between fires they don't have many keepsakes accumulated.
Plus, like Wolf said, they have a bunch of stupid laws keeping them from fire-proofing the landscape in built up areas.

steambender · 04-01-2007, 11:06 PM

Here in San Diego, our average yearly rainfall is something like 13". Total. Most years it does not rain between say April 1st and October...dew and Fog, but no raindrops.

We're several inches behind this year, and LA is worse, things are already crispy and ready to go and the hot weather really hasn't started yet. The dry climate breeds woody scrub with a high resin content, basically made to burn. The illegals are very careful in their tent cities in the canyons, they grew up with the fire threat. It's the city folk, or bored suburban teenagers, or firebugs. Throw in hot Santa Anna desert winds at 30 mph and 10% RH and wait for the fun.

Fire breaks are required in our area, and stucco construction with concrete tile roofs. The bad fires 3 1/2 years ago got within a mile, and this is not a high risk area. I've got pics from the end of the street, 30' high walls of flame, dry eucalyptus trees exploding in flames. It was exactly then that I realized the blizzards I grew up with were a nuisance, but not life or property threatening.

Urbane Guerrilla · 04-02-2007, 02:31 AM

My end of SoCal is, oh, just about enough like Mexico -- you get the authentic Mexican savor to the Mexican food. (No quiero Taco Bell.)

Blizzards cave your roof in if the wind didn't blow the snow off. I spent my teenage years in South Dakota. I haven't been back, and there's a reason.

Probably the best picture of the fire is the one of the smoke column and the Hollywood sign.

We get two kinds of fire seasons: early and late. This one's an early, and it happens in dry years, when the vegetation dries out the sooner and the fires get going, but there's not a great deal of foliage for them to burn. Late fire seasons are when we get a good year for rain and lots of plant growth, which then dries out later, and then the later fire season has lots to burn.

Aside from its location, this one is neither particularly bad nor especially remarkable. Now if we could just get the newsies to stop saying "wildfire" about every blaze not domesticated in a fireplace, we'd be making real progress. Let's have sense and sensibility, guys.

Wolf, I'm getting naughty thoughts of you squatting...:p And I don't do golden showers, living by the adage that it is better to be pissed off than pissed on.

03-31-2007, 02:27 AM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	CA on fire The season is starting early, shame the National Guard's out of town. That's the Hollywood Hills, in case you didn't know. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump. Last edited by xoxoxoBruce; 04-07-2007 at 05:46 PM.

03-31-2007, 07:50 AM	#2
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I really want to know when it is going to fall into the ocean. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

03-31-2007, 11:30 AM	#5
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	I lived near there for a long time. The fires happen every year and I thought they were beautiful to watch. I probably would think less of them if it was my stuff burning though. What I never understood was why would someone re-build over and over again in the same place when it keeps burning every few years? __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

03-31-2007, 01:46 PM	#9
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	How is California like granola? If you get rid of all the fruits and nuts the only thing left is the flakes. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

04-01-2007, 12:32 AM	#10
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	A little fire don't scare me! I'm still moving out there to teach in the Capistrano Unified School District in three years. If it breaks off into the ocean, that just means two coasts! __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

03-31-2007, 10:59 AM	#3
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I used to think that way about California, but after I visited it, my opinion changed. California is beautiful...it's just the people that are crazy. And it's not all of them...just a lot of 'em.

03-31-2007, 11:59 AM	#6
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I guess it's like the people that want to rebuild in the Lower 9th in Nola, or the people that rebuilt in St. Louis after the 1993 floods. I'd say part of it is sentimental attachment and another part of it is just being ornery. "Oh, you don't think I should rebuild here? Well, fuck you! I'm gonna do it anyway!" I might rebuild once, but a second time? That's probably God telling me to go.

03-31-2007, 01:10 PM	#8
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Rebuild on anchored concrete stilts I say! Be the one house on your block to survive... AND thus catch all the debris of the other houses on the block! It's looting without the hard work!

04-01-2007, 03:22 AM	#11
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	California is too beautiful to say no to. But for a series of events over which I had little control I would be a permanent resident of California. Northern California, that is. Southern Cal just didn't work for me at all. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

04-01-2007, 12:35 PM	#12
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	You know, I've often said that I wouldn't piss on California if it was on fire, and look! Here's my opportunity! Does anyone know the extent to which the fires are the result of "environmental" regs that don't allow communities to clear brush and cut firebreaks? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-01-2007, 11:06 PM	#14
steambender It just needs a minor tweak...here... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kitty corner from where I grew up Posts: 48	Here in San Diego, our average yearly rainfall is something like 13". Total. Most years it does not rain between say April 1st and October...dew and Fog, but no raindrops. We're several inches behind this year, and LA is worse, things are already crispy and ready to go and the hot weather really hasn't started yet. The dry climate breeds woody scrub with a high resin content, basically made to burn. The illegals are very careful in their tent cities in the canyons, they grew up with the fire threat. It's the city folk, or bored suburban teenagers, or firebugs. Throw in hot Santa Anna desert winds at 30 mph and 10% RH and wait for the fun. Fire breaks are required in our area, and stucco construction with concrete tile roofs. The bad fires 3 1/2 years ago got within a mile, and this is not a high risk area. I've got pics from the end of the street, 30' high walls of flame, dry eucalyptus trees exploding in flames. It was exactly then that I realized the blizzards I grew up with were a nuisance, but not life or property threatening.

04-02-2007, 02:31 AM	#15
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	My end of SoCal is, oh, just about enough like Mexico -- you get the authentic Mexican savor to the Mexican food. (No quiero Taco Bell.) Blizzards cave your roof in if the wind didn't blow the snow off. I spent my teenage years in South Dakota. I haven't been back, and there's a reason. Probably the best picture of the fire is the one of the smoke column and the Hollywood sign. We get two kinds of fire seasons: early and late. This one's an early, and it happens in dry years, when the vegetation dries out the sooner and the fires get going, but there's not a great deal of foliage for them to burn. Late fire seasons are when we get a good year for rain and lots of plant growth, which then dries out later, and then the later fire season has lots to burn. Aside from its location, this one is neither particularly bad nor especially remarkable. Now if we could just get the newsies to stop saying "wildfire" about every blaze not domesticated in a fireplace, we'd be making real progress. Let's have sense and sensibility, guys. Wolf, I'm getting naughty thoughts of you squatting...:p And I don't do golden showers, living by the adage that it is better to be pissed off than pissed on. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course. Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 04-02-2007 at 02:36 AM.

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