Better groupings

footfootfoot · 06-26-2011, 09:21 PM

I mentioned in the silhouette thread that when I was shooting the other sighting in targets it turned out my scope was bouncing all over the place.

After we screwed the damn thing down (I have half a mind to loc-tite it) I got much better groups at 60yards. I don't have any markings to indicate elevation presets, so changes in range were by guess and by golly.

Much better. Now I need an after market trigger and a better scope.

zippyt · 06-26-2011, 09:54 PM

Pulled that one on 3 didnt ya ??
Not bad for 60 yards though

footfootfoot · 06-26-2011, 11:09 PM

The guy who kicked all our asses was using iron sights

regular.joe · 06-26-2011, 11:50 PM

Foot, iron or scope, the fundamentals don't change. Point the rifle at the target, and pull the trigger with out moving the rifle. No such thing as advanced marksmanship, just a finer application of the fundamentals. You should try iron sights, if you can see the front sight post you can shoot well. What happens with a scope with lots of people is that they can see the target real well so they don't focus on the fundamentals. With iron sights the target should look blurry, mentally for me it's easier to focus on the fundamentals for some reason. Then go back to the scope. I think you will see a difference. Oh, and dry fire a lot. Pay attention to what the sights do when you are breathing and especially when you pull the trigger.

what is the measurement of those squares on your target? Are they 1/4 inch squares? or 1/2 inch?

xoxoxoBruce · 06-27-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

. Now I need an after market trigger and a better scope.

Heh heh heh, that's how it starts.

I agree with Joe, use iron sights to learn to hit the target, then get a scope to make sure of what the target is.

ZenGum · 06-27-2011, 02:39 AM

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hit the target, then get a scope to make sure of what the target is.

Is that in an army training manual?

footfootfoot · 06-27-2011, 02:48 PM

Yes, and page one reads, READY, FIRE, AIM!

regular.joe · 06-27-2011, 04:10 PM

No...no...no...that's the civilian leadership in charge of the military.

ZenGum · 06-27-2011, 09:18 PM

I don't think they even bother with "ready".

Gravdigr · 07-05-2011, 08:55 PM

Ya oughta already be ready .

footfootfoot · 08-25-2011, 12:01 PM

Been working on my basic skills with the Rem 870 and the .22 Marlin. With the .22 I've been practicing on the bench rest at 25y, 50y, 75y, 100y and I'm doing OK with groupings up to about 75y, It was very windy at the range the other day and my 100y group was something like 4 or 5 inches.

My trigger squeeze is pretty good. The real problem I'm having is offhand shooting; my sights are dancing all over the place. I'm guessing lifting weights is probably the first step to take. The Shoulder is now good enough that I'm up to weights between 4 and 8 pounds depending on the exercise.

Are there any exercises specific to rifle and or pistol shooting for building muscle. I'm assuming that is what is going on. The breath, the relaxing, the squeezing are all good when I'm on the bench or prone. It's the offhand and kneeling that are weak.

sexobon · 08-25-2011, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

... my sights are dancing all over the place. ...

Try another scope, a battery operated gyroscope mounted under the receiver.

06-26-2011, 09:21 PM	#1
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06-26-2011, 09:54 PM	#2
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06-26-2011, 11:09 PM	#3
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	The guy who kicked all our asses was using iron sights __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

06-26-2011, 11:50 PM	#4
regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	Foot, iron or scope, the fundamentals don't change. Point the rifle at the target, and pull the trigger with out moving the rifle. No such thing as advanced marksmanship, just a finer application of the fundamentals. You should try iron sights, if you can see the front sight post you can shoot well. What happens with a scope with lots of people is that they can see the target real well so they don't focus on the fundamentals. With iron sights the target should look blurry, mentally for me it's easier to focus on the fundamentals for some reason. Then go back to the scope. I think you will see a difference. Oh, and dry fire a lot. Pay attention to what the sights do when you are breathing and especially when you pull the trigger. what is the measurement of those squares on your target? Are they 1/4 inch squares? or 1/2 inch? __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

06-27-2011, 02:48 PM	#7
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Yes, and page one reads, READY, FIRE, AIM! __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

06-27-2011, 04:10 PM	#8
regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	No...no...no...that's the civilian leadership in charge of the military. __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

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08-25-2011, 12:01 PM	#11
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Been working on my basic skills with the Rem 870 and the .22 Marlin. With the .22 I've been practicing on the bench rest at 25y, 50y, 75y, 100y and I'm doing OK with groupings up to about 75y, It was very windy at the range the other day and my 100y group was something like 4 or 5 inches. My trigger squeeze is pretty good. The real problem I'm having is offhand shooting; my sights are dancing all over the place. I'm guessing lifting weights is probably the first step to take. The Shoulder is now good enough that I'm up to weights between 4 and 8 pounds depending on the exercise. Are there any exercises specific to rifle and or pistol shooting for building muscle. I'm assuming that is what is going on. The breath, the relaxing, the squeezing are all good when I'm on the bench or prone. It's the offhand and kneeling that are weak. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

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