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Old 06-12-2008, 06:47 AM   #1
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The Service Industry in America

Shamelessly copied from another forum I visit. I thought you all might enjoy it.

Two Phrases That Destroyed American Culture
December 13th, 2006
Every time I promise myself that I will work on controlling my temper, I always end up making a scene.

This time, it wasn’t my fault. All I wanted was a bagel. A bagel, a cup of coffee, and perhaps a spot near a window where I could idly watch the traffic go by as I browsed through the newspaper and licked cream cheese from my fingers. But apparently the Gods were not on my side.

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Old 06-12-2008, 07:09 AM   #2
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Very interesting. I completely agree re people in the service industry deserving good manners and respect.

So the next time I suffer lousy service (because The Customer Is Always Right doesn't apply here - not so much anyway) I will soothe myself with the idea that the opposite end of the scale would be far less palatable to me.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:18 AM   #3
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Lousy service is certainly on the other end of the continum.
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:10 AM   #4
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Merc, from that same link there is an interesting article on training children. Since I don't have any children I don't know how effective the suggestions are, but I hope they're very effective, and, if so, I hope all parents in the world immediately implement these procedures.

It's a three-part article, starting here.

I thought parts 2 and 3 were the most useful. The links for those can be found at the end of the first article.

I hope someone with kids tries some of these techniques then reports back. It might improve your chances of getting your car fixed.
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:45 AM   #5
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That was really good HLJ, I am going to forward that to a few friends who I know reward their kids with toys for good behavior.
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:30 PM   #6
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Well I've only gotten halfway through, but this part

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(I hate to say it, but because of the 60 day rule, it is pretty pointless for non custodial parents to attempt to shape behavior. The 60 days almost always have to be in a row. So if you only get your kids every other weekend, you’re pretty much screwed. It sucks, but if the custodial parent is not on the same page as you, your kids are probably going to end up little bastards. If you don’t accept this now, you’ll likely spend the next 2 decades contemplating driving your car into a goddamn tree.)
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Old 06-12-2008, 06:04 PM   #7
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If only all of those 'poor kids' behind the service counters realized that it's a money for work exchange, and not their private social club. No pity for junk service from me - been there, had to do that. OTOH, someone learning or trying to do the job deserves a generous spirit from customers. It's a tough career. The "hash brown" and "french fries" thing is a good example of customer jerkiness.
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Old 06-12-2008, 08:46 PM   #8
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Heh! I like Violent Acres. lol! I spent a while there. But you know, of course I like it. I also like cala lilies. They're my favorite.
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:21 PM   #9
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Where exactly is this place where the customer is always right? I've heard rumors of it, but I've never been there.
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:24 PM   #10
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They always seem to be right (up my a@#). Location found, and you don't want to go there.
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:24 PM   #11
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I read through some of her rants and thought they might be Cicero under a different name.
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:35 PM   #12
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lol! Nah, I can spell subtlety. But it does eerily remind me of me in other ways. I guess it's because I thought it was a male writer at first and couldn't tell it was a woman. Must be all that "vitriol". Uuugh.
lol!


And all my rants about how buying a cup of coffee is not a heavy damned negotiation and/or transaction.
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:49 PM   #13
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Ah, her writing style just reminded me a lot of you. Sort of eloquently biting, at times? She is definitely more surly, though. Eh, well. It was meant as a compliment.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:02 PM   #14
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Yea. Like I said, that does remind me of me too, so you couldn't be that far off!

And I will take any compliment you would like to hand out. Thanks! (running)
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:37 PM   #15
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Where exactly is this place where the customer is always right? I've heard rumors of it, but I've never been there.
I always end up at the place (everywhere) that the customer has a valid complaint that the service desk can't resolve for 15 minutes, that the manager can't resolve for another half hour, that the corporate helpdesk can't resolve until Monday, and that the manager of the corporate helpdesk eventually admits to being able to resolve in about 15 seconds -- but here's the catch: IT WILL NEVER, EVER GET RESOLVED UNLESS I FVCKING YELL AT EACH ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE FOR X AMOUNT OF MINUTES UNTIL THEY PASS ME ON. The system is designed so that YOU HAVE TO YELL AT PEOPLE or else nothing gets done EVER. The system is designed so that 99% of people will give up before getting what they rightfully deserve when the store is clearly at fault (and they don't even deny being at fault! they just say it's "not our policy" to fvcking do anything about it).

It's not the fault of the employee, and it's NOT the fault of the customer. It's THE POLICY that is designed to make it impossible to resolve anything.

Well, guess what? I'M NOT LEAVING THIS GODDAMN STORE UNTIL SOMEBODY FIXES THIS FOR ME! IF I HAVE TO FVCKING YELL AT YOU AND YOU AND THE NEXT MOTHERFUVCKER FOR THE NEXT TWO HOURS, EVENTUALLY YOU WILL HAVE TO FIX THIS FOR ME. . . .YOU. WILL. FIX. THIS.

I'M NOT LEAVING UNTIL YOU FIX THIS!!! . . . That's what you have to do. They MAKE YOU DO IT.
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