GOP becomes completely irrelevent

Griff · 05-16-2007, 07:15 AM

Let's see, Guiliani supports torture and all war-making. McCain proves he'll say anything to get elected even about Falwell

. Romney is all over the place if not as completely bat shit crazy.

I'm looking at these clowns as they suck up to GW's <30% and see a group determined to give the White House to the Democrats who are already pretending to be moderates. The fight is for the middle and these guys can't find it. Bad times ahead.

I know the <30% and they will still vote anti-abortion and pro-empire, somebody needs to wake them up. It is time to talk about limited government but GOP cred on that subject is gone.

Spexxvet · 05-16-2007, 08:19 AM

The Dems couldn't find the middle in 2004, and W lied that he was the middle in 2000.

I will say again - there needs to be a third party that is moderate!

Griff · 05-16-2007, 10:19 AM

Something has to give, bro. We can't afford one party gov.

elSicomoro · 05-16-2007, 12:58 PM

I was reading about some project recently that actor Sam Waterston (Jack McCoy on L&O) is involved in to create a true moderate third party.

Ya know, Dana made this comment last month that just didn't sound right to me. I mean, no disrespect to her...to each his own, y'know? But IMO, this kind of thinking is what has gotten us in trouble here in the States in the first place. I think too often, we look through the winged goggles and don't really look at the issues. If we did so, I think we'd be a more truly moderate society...as opposed to one that is moderate because the left and right cancel each other out.

piercehawkeye45 · 05-16-2007, 03:00 PM

All the Republicans are the same and the Democrats have a little diversity but not a lot, typical.

The best canidates, in my opinion, are the ones we never hear of.

Trilby · 05-16-2007, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

All the Republicans are the same and the Democrats have a little diversity but not a lot, typical.

The best canidates, in my opinion, are the ones we never hear of.

Do...do you mean that what this country needs is Radar?

piercehawkeye45 · 05-16-2007, 06:03 PM

Are you talking about the Cellar Radar or making a MASH comment?

xoxoxoBruce · 05-16-2007, 06:08 PM

How would MASH Radar help?

Trilby · 05-16-2007, 07:20 PM

I mean the Cellar Radar.

The MASH Radar could help just with his awesome filing skilz.

Happy Monkey · 05-16-2007, 07:36 PM

Plus his amazing ability to hide the stump of his missing finger from the camera.

piercehawkeye45 · 05-16-2007, 09:13 PM

I actually don't know Radar's views.

You could all just vote for me instead.

*steals spotlight*

Urbane Guerrilla · 05-16-2007, 10:42 PM

You put that right back!

Griff · 05-17-2007, 07:38 AM

The most heated moment in the debate, which aired live on the conservative Fox News network, came when the former New York mayor and current GOP front-runner angrily refused to entertain a serious discussion about the role that actions taken by the United States prior to the September 11, 2OO1, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon may have played in inspiring or encouraging those attacks.

Giuliani led the crowd of contenders on attacking Texas Congressman Ron Paul after the anti-war Republican restated facts that are outlined in the report of the The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States.

It is very unlikely that the GOP is ready for this dicussion.

Urbane Guerrilla · 05-17-2007, 10:35 AM

The actions that encouraged those attacks are those of the Clinton Administration, whose foreign policy is a study in cluelessness. It was not an improvement on the Carter Administration's. This same weakness, inadequacy, and general incompetence continues to be desired by the Democrats. As if the Democrats have won any wars since Truman. They should talk? No, the Republicans are more worthy of the Republic's trust on this. They actually try and win, which seems only right.

Ibby · 05-17-2007, 05:36 PM

So what you're saying is that authoritarians that win wars by becoming the enemy are preferable to libertarians that don't kill people?

05-16-2007, 07:15 AM	#1
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	GOP becomes completely irrelevent Let's see, Guiliani supports torture and all war-making. McCain proves he'll say anything to get elected even about Falwell . Romney is all over the place if not as completely bat shit crazy. I'm looking at these clowns as they suck up to GW's <30% and see a group determined to give the White House to the Democrats who are already pretending to be moderates. The fight is for the middle and these guys can't find it. Bad times ahead. I know the <30% and they will still vote anti-abortion and pro-empire, somebody needs to wake them up. It is time to talk about limited government but GOP cred on that subject is gone.

05-16-2007, 08:19 AM	#2
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	The Dems couldn't find the middle in 2004, and W lied that he was the middle in 2000. I will say again - there needs to be a third party that is moderate! __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

05-16-2007, 06:08 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	How would MASH Radar help? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-16-2007, 07:20 PM	#9
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I mean the Cellar Radar. The MASH Radar could help just with his awesome filing skilz. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

05-16-2007, 07:36 PM	#10
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Plus his amazing ability to hide the stump of his missing finger from the camera. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

05-16-2007, 10:19 AM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Something has to give, bro. We can't afford one party gov.

05-16-2007, 12:58 PM	#4
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I was reading about some project recently that actor Sam Waterston (Jack McCoy on L&O) is involved in to create a true moderate third party. Ya know, Dana made this comment last month that just didn't sound right to me. I mean, no disrespect to her...to each his own, y'know? But IMO, this kind of thinking is what has gotten us in trouble here in the States in the first place. I think too often, we look through the winged goggles and don't really look at the issues. If we did so, I think we'd be a more truly moderate society...as opposed to one that is moderate because the left and right cancel each other out.

05-16-2007, 03:00 PM	#5
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	All the Republicans are the same and the Democrats have *a little* diversity but not a lot, typical. The best canidates, in my opinion, are the ones we never hear of.

05-16-2007, 06:03 PM	#7
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Are you talking about the Cellar Radar or making a MASH comment?

05-16-2007, 09:13 PM	#11
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	I actually don't know Radar's views. You could all just vote for me instead. steals spotlight

05-16-2007, 10:42 PM	#12
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	You put that right back!

05-17-2007, 07:38 AM	#13
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The most heated moment in the debate, which aired live on the conservative Fox News network, came when the former New York mayor and current GOP front-runner angrily refused to entertain a serious discussion about the role that actions taken by the United States prior to the September 11, 2OO1, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon may have played in inspiring or encouraging those attacks. Giuliani led the crowd of contenders on attacking Texas Congressman Ron Paul after the anti-war Republican restated facts that are outlined in the report of the The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. It is very unlikely that the GOP is ready for this dicussion. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

05-17-2007, 10:35 AM	#14
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	The actions that encouraged those attacks are those of the Clinton Administration, whose foreign policy is a study in cluelessness. It was not an improvement on the Carter Administration's. This same weakness, inadequacy, and general incompetence continues to be desired by the Democrats. As if the Democrats have won any wars since Truman. They should talk? No, the Republicans are more worthy of the Republic's trust on this. They actually try and win, which seems only right. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

05-17-2007, 05:36 PM	#15
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	So what you're saying is that authoritarians that win wars by becoming the enemy are preferable to libertarians that don't kill people? __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

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