Hey! They've Got One and They are Nowhere Near as Cool!

wolf · 02-18-2006, 11:33 AM

Phillyblog's Wikipedia Entry.

Or is it cooler not to have one? I am not up on the current trends.

02-18-2006, 01:49 PM

I'm not sure why Phillyblog deserves its own entry in Wikipedia, but I did notice that the entry is open for further editing and expansion on the topic...

I like the following new word that I'd never seen before:

the negadelphian, or someone who enjoys posting negative comments about Philadelphia, especially about its professional sports teams.

Undertoad · 02-18-2006, 02:48 PM

It should be done as a matter of course, but I have not bothered to learn the Wikipedia format and it seems like a requirement.

wolf · 02-19-2006, 01:03 PM

Probably just cutting and pasting the history page, with mention of Dinty's book, should do for a start.

SteveDallas · 02-19-2006, 01:38 PM

I believe to do it properly in the wikipedia "style" there would need to be two or three different factions with axes to grind making competing edits over a period of several weeks, resulting in press coverage.

richlevy · 02-19-2006, 01:49 PM

Actually, although I joined the Cellar back in the dialup days, I wasn't a member from it's inception and I can't recall the actual year the Cellar started. I know I missed a great deal from what I was told at the first GTG I went to at the Reading Market where I learned about the Kaos saga.

Also, there was that telnet period where I only connected briefly.

Has the Cellar been in continuous operation since it's inception? If so, it can probably claim to be the Philadelphia regions oldest on-line community.

Undertoad · 02-19-2006, 02:35 PM

That is the case Rich, the year was 1990. (Which is why the logo says "Est. 1990" in nearly unreadable type.)

It was the first place in Philly where the general public could reach Internet email.

It's surely one of the 25 oldest virtual communities in the world and I would think it's probably in the top 10.

Rock Steady · 02-19-2006, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

That is the case Rich, the year was 1990. (Which is why the logo says "Est. 1990" in nearly unreadable type.)

It was the first place in Philly where the general public could reach Internet email.

It's surely one of the 25 oldest virtual communities in the world and I would think it's probably in the top 10.

That is terrific history UT.

Would you consider ARPAnet to be just one big community? It relates to your top 25/10 lists. Perhaps in 1980-5 it was one community spread across the USA.

My last X-gf is from Philly; we lived together in NY and were part of DARPA contracts that gave us ARPAnet access. After her PhD, she got a job back in the Philly area, met her husband thru an ARPAnet news group in '85. He was also local to Phillie.

So, we had special access as CS reserchers with DARPA contracts. The Cellar was public access. Ra!

footfootfoot · 02-19-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

Actually, although I joined the Cellar back in the dialup days, ...snip...

BACK in the dialup days? What does he mean by this "back"?

wolf · 02-19-2006, 08:32 PM

Pre-web, son. There was such a time. Giants strode the earth in those days. editor and cerberus and siano and adamzion. Yes, those were the days.

lumberjim · 02-19-2006, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

It was the first place in Philly where the general public could reach Internet email.

It's surely one of the 25 oldest virtual communities in the world and I would think it's probably in the top 10.

that should be touted. or at least bandied about.

your advertising dept is asleep at the wheel.

richlevy · 02-19-2006, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

Pre-web, son. There was such a time. Giants strode the earth in those days. editor and cerberus and siano and adamzion. Yes, those were the days.

How many people remember when Archie and Veronica didn't have anything to do with comics?

When bps and baud meant the same thing?
When you had to put command strings in front of a phone number to keep the modem from timing out trying to handshake?
Downloads were done in Xmodem and Kermit.
Usenet was the only way to network, and there were less than 2,000 newsgroups.

I remember getting a used 300 baud Hayes Smartmodem at an employee auction and sitting on a porch one vacation weekend in Atlantic City with a soldering iron and two user manuals making a serial cable for my Atari 800.

Man I feel old.

SteveDallas · 02-19-2006, 10:18 PM

My first modem was a 1200 baud Migent Pocket Modem; it could run off a 9 volt battery (though I usually used the AC adapter). Though I did use a 300 baud at my campus job. (There was no computer network between buildings at that time, so to connect up to the VAX from the departmental computer lab I worked at we would just dial through the campus PBX with a 300 baud modem.)

zippyt · 02-19-2006, 11:36 PM

a soldering iron and two user manuals making a serial cable

That sounds like MY job !!!

richlevy · 02-19-2006, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyt

a soldering iron and two user manuals making a serial cable

That sounds like MY job !!!

You can have it.

02-18-2006, 11:33 AM	#1
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Hey! They've Got One and They are Nowhere Near as Cool! Phillyblog's Wikipedia Entry. Or is it cooler not to have one? I am not up on the current trends. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-19-2006, 01:03 PM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Probably just cutting and pasting the history page, with mention of Dinty's book, should do for a start. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-19-2006, 01:49 PM	#6
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Actually, although I joined the Cellar back in the dialup days, I wasn't a member from it's inception and I can't recall the actual year the Cellar started. I know I missed a great deal from what I was told at the first GTG I went to at the Reading Market where I learned about the Kaos saga. Also, there was that telnet period where I only connected briefly. Has the Cellar been in continuous operation since it's inception? If so, it can probably claim to be the Philadelphia regions oldest on-line community. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

02-19-2006, 08:32 PM	#10
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Pre-web, son. There was such a time. Giants strode the earth in those days. editor and cerberus and siano and adamzion. Yes, those were the days. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-19-2006, 11:36 PM	#14
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	a soldering iron and two user manuals making a serial cable That sounds like MY job !!! __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

02-18-2006, 01:49 PM	#2
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	I'm not sure why Phillyblog deserves its own entry in Wikipedia, but I did notice that the entry is open for further editing and expansion on the topic... I like the following new word that I'd never seen before: the negadelphian, or someone who enjoys posting negative comments about Philadelphia, especially about its professional sports teams.

02-18-2006, 02:48 PM	#3
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	It should be done as a matter of course, but I have not bothered to learn the Wikipedia format and it seems like a requirement.

02-19-2006, 01:38 PM	#5
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	I believe to do it properly in the wikipedia "style" there would need to be two or three different factions with axes to grind making competing edits over a period of several weeks, resulting in press coverage.

02-19-2006, 02:35 PM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	That is the case Rich, the year was 1990. (Which is why the logo says "Est. 1990" in nearly unreadable type.) It was the first place in Philly where the general public could reach Internet email. It's surely one of the 25 oldest virtual communities in the world and I would think it's probably in the top 10.

02-19-2006, 10:18 PM	#13
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	My first modem was a 1200 baud Migent Pocket Modem; it could run off a 9 volt battery (though I usually used the AC adapter). Though I did use a 300 baud at my campus job. (There was no computer network between buildings at that time, so to connect up to the VAX from the departmental computer lab I worked at we would just dial through the campus PBX with a 300 baud modem.)

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