Multiplying CDs: what to do with them?

SteveDallas · 08-30-2002, 09:57 AM

As if I didn't have enough store-bought CDs, I find myself inundatedwith CD-Rs. Between system backups and other data CDs and home-burned audio CDs of various stripes, I'm having trouble figuring out the best way to store & keep track of them. The little plastic envelopes are OK in some cases, as are slim jewel boxes. Any creative suggestions beyond what's available in stores?

Undertoad · 08-30-2002, 10:23 AM

Nothing to offer except agreement; I can't keep track. The plastic sleeves are a godsend. I don't respect jewel boxes at all.

juju · 08-30-2002, 10:39 AM

I have a great solution: switch to mp3-cds.

I've already done this myself. I condenced a 200-cd cd collection into just 20 cds.

Portable cd players and boomboxes that play mp3-cds are very reasonable in price and play normal cds as well. It's also very easy to hook your computer audio output into your stereo.

The only problem with this is that it's incredibly time-consuming to start out with. Ripping 200 cds took me an extremely long time. I did it as a summer project, though, and i'm glad I did. I can now carry around in a nice, small cd-binder an incredibly humongous amount of music.

perth · 08-30-2002, 11:19 AM

yeah but what do you do to keep track of those 20 cds?

myself, whenever i buy a new cd the first thing i do is rip it and put it away. i make a copy of it on cdr, forget to label it and put it in my car. when i have another cd to play, i take the first disc out of the stereo and put it on the passenger seat. then, when i want to listen to it again, i fumble through the stack of unlabeled cds on the floor in front of the passenger seat, trying each cd one at a time until i get tired of the process. then i accept my fate, burn another copy and the cycle starts all over.

~james

Undertoad · 08-30-2002, 11:31 AM

The thing stopping me from doing this is the price of MP3 players for the car. Last I looked it was still like $300 for a player. Portable players that will take MP3 CDRs are under $100 now, so what's the deal?

OTOH I must have had about 7 different solutions for CDs in the car and they all fail the most important factor: they all skipped. Portable CD players have skip protection and car players don't. I don't understand this at all.

08-30-2002, 11:32 AM

I buy a CD, put it in the PowerMac, click the "Import" button, drag the tracks to my iPod, and then enjoy. 2,000 songs (10GB) in my pocket.

Nic Name · 08-30-2002, 12:05 PM

I read in an advertisement that a 20 gig iPod is coming soon.

08-30-2002, 12:41 PM

If "coming soon" means that I could have bought one 3 weeks ago but decided to put the money toward the new gaming system, then yes, 20 gig iPods are coming soon.

Xugumad · 08-30-2002, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by Undertoad
The thing stopping me from doing this is the price of MP3 players for the car. Last I looked it was still like $300 for a player. Portable players that will take MP3 CDRs are under $100 now, so what's the deal?

There is no deal; car stereo CD players that will play CD-Rs and CD-RWs with <a href="http://www.mp3shopping.com/english/CDC-MP3.htm">mp3s</a> on them can be bought for around $150. Check places like Best Buy, or even Target. Reputable brand names as well, if that is a must. The increased cost of in-dash stereos vs. MP3 discmen is that the engineering effort and care going into the former is somewhat higher, as more sophisticated sound systems tend to be attached to them. The latter are - if you opt for a cheap solution - uniformly flimsy and badly-engineered. If you have to produce sound that will be put through speakers, with amps, etc. and construction that can't fall apart after being shaken and vibrated a lot for years and years inside a car, you need to be careful.

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OTOH I must have had about 7 different solutions for CDs in the car and they all fail the most important factor: they all skipped. Portable CD players have skip protection and car players don't. [/b]

This is unusual. In-dash car CD players that are factory built-in are usually rock solid; I can only speak from experience in regard to those in Hondas and BMWs (from 1997 onward), but none of those that I've seen have shown any sign of skipping whatsoever. YM obviously V.

X.

LordSludge · 08-30-2002, 02:32 PM

What about a DVD-RW burner? It won't eliminate the problem, but it will reduce it by about 4x -- aren't they right about 2GB per DVD now?

Myself, I plan to rip all my audio CDs to mp3 (should be about 50GB) and store 'em on a big hard drive in the sky (server) for home-wide access. Then, I'll use a DVD-RW to back 'em up and just store the original CDs in a box in the attic.

Nic Name · 08-30-2002, 02:35 PM

"Coming Soon" is a Canadian phrase that means you can buy it right now in the States for less.

juju · 08-30-2002, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by perth
yeah but what do you do to keep track of those 20 cds?

myself, whenever i buy a new cd the first thing i do is rip it and put it away. i make a copy of it on cdr, forget to label it and put it in my car. when i have another cd to play, i take the first disc out of the stereo and put it on the passenger seat. then, when i want to listen to it again, i fumble through the stack of unlabeled cds on the floor in front of the passenger seat, trying each cd one at a time until i get tired of the process. then i accept my fate, burn another copy and the cycle starts all over.

Easy. When I burn an mp3-cd, I label it and put it in a cd-binder.

The cdrs I buy have a capacity of 700 meg; so I can fit about 10-12 cds onto one cdr. As long as you label it, there's no problem at all. Even if you grab the wrong cd, out of 12 different albums, you're almost guaranteed to find something you like. I find that I never need more than 1 cd in my car.

juju · 08-30-2002, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
OTOH I must have had about 7 different solutions for CDs in the car and they all fail the most important factor: they all skipped. Portable CD players have skip protection and car players don't. I don't understand this at all.

I think when they first started making these they had problems. I've since then upgraded to a much nicer and newer one, and it never skips at all. So I have a feeling the newer ones don't have these kinds of problems.

Mp3-cd players actually have <i>more</i> skip protection that regular cds, since it take less time to load the song into memory. My portable player stops spinning the cd about 20 seconds into a song, but the music keeps playing. It doesn't usually spin up again for another 3 minutes, and then only for another 20 seconds.

BTW, here's one for only $150.

juju · 08-30-2002, 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by LordSludge
What about a DVD-RW burner? It won't eliminate the problem, but it will reduce it by about 4x -- aren't they right about 2GB per DVD now?

Those are still kind of expensive for my taste, although they're definitely getting there. Once DVD burners get cheap enough, i'm definitely switching.

lanmaniac · 09-04-2002, 01:09 PM

If you're going portable, ditch the CD players, and the MP3 players. I've had my Minidisc portable for about 9months now, and couldn't picture myself without it. It's small, media's cheap, plenty of space ( 3hrs on LP2, 5 on LP4 ). What more could you ask for? It is almost impossible to skip, I can play about 30+ hours on ONE AA battery, and I have a older model. The newer ones get more efficient with every new generation. If you buy a new NetMD model, you get to drag and drop songs onto the Minidisc, very sweet.

Check it out: http://www.minidisc.org

08-30-2002, 09:57 AM	#1
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	Multiplying CDs: what to do with them? As if I didn't have enough store-bought CDs, I find myself inundatedwith CD-Rs. Between system backups and other data CDs and home-burned audio CDs of various stripes, I'm having trouble figuring out the best way to store & keep track of them. The little plastic envelopes are OK in some cases, as are slim jewel boxes. Any creative suggestions beyond what's available in stores?

08-30-2002, 02:32 PM	#10
LordSludge Geek Join Date: May 2002 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 76	What about a DVD-RW burner? It won't eliminate the problem, but it will reduce it by about 4x -- aren't they right about 2GB per DVD now? Myself, I plan to rip all my audio CDs to mp3 (should be about 50GB) and store 'em on a big hard drive in the sky (server) for home-wide access. Then, I'll use a DVD-RW to back 'em up and just store the original CDs in a box in the attic. __________________ "Fasten your seatbelt. I saw something in a cartoon once that I want to try."

09-04-2002, 01:09 PM	#15
lanmaniac Neophyte-in-training Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: TX, USA Posts: 3	Minidisc is your friend. If you're going portable, ditch the CD players, and the MP3 players. I've had my Minidisc portable for about 9months now, and couldn't picture myself without it. It's small, media's cheap, plenty of space ( 3hrs on LP2, 5 on LP4 ). What more could you ask for? It is almost impossible to skip, I can play about 30+ hours on ONE AA battery, and I have a older model. The newer ones get more efficient with every new generation. If you buy a new NetMD model, you get to drag and drop songs onto the Minidisc, very sweet. Check it out: http://www.minidisc.org

08-30-2002, 10:23 AM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Nothing to offer except agreement; I can't keep track. The plastic sleeves are a godsend. I don't respect jewel boxes at all.

08-30-2002, 10:39 AM	#3
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	I have a great solution: switch to mp3-cds. I've already done this myself. I condenced a 200-cd cd collection into just 20 cds. Portable cd players and boomboxes that play mp3-cds are very reasonable in price and play normal cds as well. It's also very easy to hook your computer audio output into your stereo. The only problem with this is that it's incredibly time-consuming to start out with. Ripping 200 cds took me an extremely long time. I did it as a summer project, though, and i'm glad I did. I can now carry around in a nice, small cd-binder an incredibly humongous amount of music.

08-30-2002, 11:19 AM	#4
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	yeah but what do you do to keep track of those 20 cds? myself, whenever i buy a new cd the first thing i do is rip it and put it away. i make a copy of it on cdr, forget to label it and put it in my car. when i have another cd to play, i take the first disc out of the stereo and put it on the passenger seat. then, when i want to listen to it again, i fumble through the stack of unlabeled cds on the floor in front of the passenger seat, trying each cd one at a time until i get tired of the process. then i accept my fate, burn another copy and the cycle starts all over. ~james

08-30-2002, 11:31 AM	#5
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The thing stopping me from doing this is the price of MP3 players for the car. Last I looked it was still like $300 for a player. Portable players that will take MP3 CDRs are under $100 now, so what's the deal? OTOH I must have had about 7 different solutions for CDs in the car and they all fail the most important factor: they all skipped. Portable CD players have skip protection and car players don't. I don't understand this at all.

08-30-2002, 11:32 AM	#6
dave Guest Posts: n/a	I buy a CD, put it in the PowerMac, click the "Import" button, drag the tracks to my iPod, and then enjoy. 2,000 songs (10GB) in my pocket.

08-30-2002, 12:05 PM	#7
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	I read in an advertisement that a 20 gig iPod is coming soon.

08-30-2002, 12:41 PM	#8
dave Guest Posts: n/a	If "coming soon" means that I could have bought one 3 weeks ago but decided to put the money toward the new gaming system, then yes, 20 gig iPods are coming soon.

08-30-2002, 02:35 PM	#11
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	"Coming Soon" is a Canadian phrase that means you can buy it right now in the States for less.

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