Iran

Griff · 01-03-2020, 06:41 AM

Trumps Iran work in completely unrelated to re-election. Definitely. Why would anyone think otherwise?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9268691.html

Luce · 01-03-2020, 08:35 AM

This is going to be the crapsack world we were promised.

Undertoad · 01-03-2020, 09:31 AM

Y'all need to find consensus on this, if it's a crapsack he'll never get re-elected

Diaphone Jim · 01-03-2020, 10:59 AM

Wait for it: "You can't impeach me, I'm a War President."

Luce · 01-03-2020, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Y'all need to find consensus on this, if it's a crapsack he'll never get re-elected

All in all, I would prefer not to have a crapsack.

Unfortunately, they seem to be joined at the hip.

sexobon · 01-03-2020, 11:16 AM

OTOH, making an example of Soleimani for Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (and indirectly N. Korea's Kim Jong-un) that conveys we're not going to turn the other cheek, it's not going to be an eye for an eye, and we're not going to wait for another disaster of 9/11 magnitude before we act, may not be a bad idea. Demonstrating that we're willing to preemptively take out those plotting against us may show that an ounce of prevention is still worth a pound of cure. Americans may want a President willing to follow-up on this. Too much snake oil out there.

Happy Monkey · 01-03-2020, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Y'all need to find consensus on this, if it's a crapsack he'll never get re-elected

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim

Wait for it: "You can't impeach me, I'm a War President."

I think that all Presidents with lingering crapsack wars have had two terms.

Griff · 01-03-2020, 11:54 AM

Not LBJ but we're much more militaristic and nationalistic now.

Undertoad · 01-03-2020, 11:57 AM

Who said war? It probably won't be war.

Luce · 01-03-2020, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Who said war? It probably won't be war.

Iran is as incapable of backing down from this as we would be in their situation.

They are nationalistic as hell, with some religious wallpaper over it.

sexobon · 01-03-2020, 12:34 PM

Let's hope they're all that way, then we won't have to worry about collateral damage.

Luce · 01-03-2020, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon

Let's hope they're all that way, then we won't have to worry about collateral damage.

If every single one of our munitions hit with pinpoint accuracy, there will still be collateral damage.

Iran isn't just going to sit there, and they can't reach us, so they're going to clobber everyone that they CAN reach that has ever spoken to us in a civil tone of voice.

sexobon · 01-03-2020, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Luce

If every single one of our munitions hit with pinpoint accuracy, there will still be collateral damage.

Not in terms of lives. If they all jump on the nationalistic bandwagon, they all become enemies.

Luce · 01-03-2020, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon

Not in terms of lives. If they all jump on the nationalistic bandwagon, they all become enemies.

What I am saying is that due to their inability to hit us, they will hit anyone that's friendly to us.

sexobon · 01-03-2020, 02:49 PM

They're expansionists, they were going to do that anyway.

01-03-2020, 06:41 AM	#1
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Iran Trumps Iran work in completely unrelated to re-election. Definitely. Why would anyone think otherwise? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9268691.html __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-03-2020, 08:35 AM	#2
Luce Weaponized Funk Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Arizona Posts: 446	This is going to be the crapsack world we were promised. __________________ Finagle's Law takes no prisoners.

01-03-2020, 11:54 AM	#8
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Not LBJ but we're much more militaristic and nationalistic now. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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01-03-2020, 09:31 AM	#3
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Y'all need to find consensus on this, if it's a crapsack he'll never get re-elected

01-03-2020, 10:59 AM	#4
Diaphone Jim Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,122	Wait for it: "You can't impeach me, I'm a War President."

01-03-2020, 11:16 AM	#6
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	OTOH, making an example of Soleimani for Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (and indirectly N. Korea's Kim Jong-un) that conveys we're not going to turn the other cheek, it's not going to be an eye for an eye, and we're not going to wait for another disaster of 9/11 magnitude before we act, may not be a bad idea. Demonstrating that we're willing to preemptively take out those plotting against us may show that an ounce of prevention is still worth a pound of cure. Americans may want a President willing to follow-up on this. Too much snake oil out there.

01-03-2020, 11:57 AM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Who said war? It probably won't be war.

01-03-2020, 12:34 PM	#11
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Let's hope they're all that way, then we won't have to worry about collateral damage.

01-03-2020, 02:49 PM	#15
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	They're expansionists, they were going to do that anyway.

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