New Theories Needed

Griff · 03-22-2006, 08:43 PM

Okay, we all agree that the bad stuff happening in Iraq was more than predictable. It was likely, almost inevitable. Let us put the administrations stategists right in the middle of the bell curve, a very charitable marker if you look at the Civil War in Iraq as an unforseen result of invading a country populated by nuts of various flavors. Let's turn it over and look at it from another angle. What if instead of the war being the little magnet for extremists it was advertised as, it was meant to destabilize the region. Some would say that mobocracy would spring from this.

What other reasons? some possibilities...
1) The neo-cons are really Global Warming Extremists (Gorests if you will)weaning us off foreign oil.
2) We need a draft. Since the draft in WW2 is often advertised as a great unifier Bush wants to bring us together as a nation by putting a bunch of hyphenated Americans in the armed forces with the red necks and blacks.
3) Putin, who has been looked in the eye and judged virtuous, needs a foreign war of massive scale to get his people back in line. W needing the same, proposed another grand alliance. We split the mideast between us and everybody is happy.

Please list your reasons! I want to know what the deal is.

busterb · 03-22-2006, 09:03 PM

Hey! What's wrong with us flappin rednecks.

Happy Monkey · 03-22-2006, 09:59 PM

Here.

Griff · 03-23-2006, 05:28 AM

brokey linky? Which PNAC bloodlust piece was that?

I was hoping for funny or ironic people.

Happy Monkey · 03-23-2006, 06:26 AM

All of them. If you compare what they call for with what Bush has done, and then add in Bush's insistence that he never wanted war with Iraq, it's sorta morbidly funny.

03-23-2006, 09:50 AM

The War in Iraq is the US's little experiment in ethnic cleansing. Since so many minorities and lower income groups now comprise todays Army (let's face it - you have to be pretty desperate and/or patriotic beyond normal reason to join up these days), this is a good way to get rid of them by a slow but steady attrition and no one cares since its not THEIR kid who is going over to be killed - I mean cleansed.

That humerous enough for you?

wolf · 03-23-2006, 01:36 PM

Without counting ...

A quick scroll through this makes it pretty clear that more white guys are dying than minorities.

Edit to add: Oh, look! CNN already counted for me: Iraq fatalties (You can't direct link to the page I wanted ... click on the "race" tab at the bottom of the page)

Urbane Guerrilla · 03-23-2006, 01:40 PM

Griff -- three different conspiracy theories in one post? Man, do you need to familiarize yourself with the contents of Why People Believe Weird Things. You won't catch me writing guff of this kind.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-23-2006, 07:05 PM

What's good for halliburton, is good for the nation.

Urbane Guerrilla · 03-24-2006, 03:31 PM

Halliburton's traded publicly on the NYSE, under HAL. Get some shares and you can be part of the nation it's good for.

Big outfit; 106,000 employees, and rather diversified, with most of its effort concentrated in oil and gas production.

barefoot serpent · 03-24-2006, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

most of its effort concentrated in gas production.

^but struggling not to be out done.

Griff · 03-24-2006, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Halliburton's traded publicly on the NYSE, under HAL. Get some shares and you can be part of the nation it's good for.

Probably ought to. They've been picking taxpayers pockets for a long time. Mmmm... suckling from the public teat sure beats competing for customers.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-24-2006, 08:18 PM

April 15th is fast approaching, guess that's why my nipples are sore.

Urbane Guerrilla · 03-28-2006, 12:16 AM

Public in one sense -- publicly traded -- but private in another, where I believe it really counts: in the private sector.

Kitsune · 03-28-2006, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff

Okay, we all agree that the bad stuff happening in Iraq was more than predictable. It was likely, almost inevitable.

Really? The powers that be didn't think so, but they sure as hell wanted the war, WMD or not.

Quote:

Bush predicted that it was "unlikely there would be internecine warfare between the different religious and ethnic groups." Blair agreed with that assessment.

Quote:

The memo also shows that the president and the prime minister acknowledged that no unconventional weapons had been found inside Iraq. Faced with the possibility of not finding any before the planned invasion, Bush talked about several ways to provoke a confrontation, including a proposal to paint a U.S. surveillance plane in the colors of the United Nations in hopes of drawing fire, or assassinating Hussein.

03-22-2006, 08:43 PM	#1
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	New Theories Needed Okay, we all agree that the bad stuff happening in Iraq was more than predictable. It was likely, almost inevitable. Let us put the administrations stategists right in the middle of the bell curve, a very charitable marker if you look at the Civil War in Iraq as an unforseen result of invading a country populated by nuts of various flavors. Let's turn it over and look at it from another angle. What if instead of the war being the little magnet for extremists it was advertised as, it was meant to destabilize the region. Some would say that mobocracy would spring from this. What other reasons? some possibilities... 1) The neo-cons are really Global Warming Extremists (Gorests if you will)weaning us off foreign oil. 2) We need a draft. Since the draft in WW2 is often advertised as a great unifier Bush wants to bring us together as a nation by putting a bunch of hyphenated Americans in the armed forces with the red necks and blacks. 3) Putin, who has been looked in the eye and judged virtuous, needs a foreign war of massive scale to get his people back in line. W needing the same, proposed another grand alliance. We split the mideast between us and everybody is happy. Please list your reasons! I want to know what the deal is. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-22-2006, 09:03 PM	#2
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Hey! What's wrong with us flappin rednecks. __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

03-22-2006, 09:59 PM	#3
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Here. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

03-23-2006, 05:28 AM	#4
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	brokey linky? Which PNAC bloodlust piece was that? I was hoping for funny or ironic people. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-23-2006, 06:26 AM	#5
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	All of them. If you compare what they call for with what Bush has done, and then add in Bush's insistence that he never wanted war with Iraq, it's sorta morbidly funny. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

03-23-2006, 09:50 AM	#6
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	The War in Iraq is the US's little experiment in ethnic cleansing. Since so many minorities and lower income groups now comprise todays Army (let's face it - you have to be pretty desperate and/or patriotic beyond normal reason to join up these days), this is a good way to get rid of them by a slow but steady attrition and no one cares since its not THEIR kid who is going over to be killed - I mean cleansed. That humerous enough for you?

03-23-2006, 01:36 PM	#7
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Without counting ... A quick scroll through this makes it pretty clear that more white guys are dying than minorities. Edit to add: Oh, look! CNN already counted for me: Iraq fatalties (You can't direct link to the page I wanted ... click on the "race" tab at the bottom of the page) __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis Last edited by wolf; 03-23-2006 at 01:40 PM.

03-23-2006, 01:40 PM	#8
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Griff -- three different conspiracy theories in one post? Man, do you need to familiarize yourself with the contents of Why People Believe Weird Things. You won't catch me writing guff of this kind. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

03-23-2006, 07:05 PM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	What's good for halliburton, is good for the nation. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-24-2006, 03:31 PM	#10
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Halliburton's traded publicly on the NYSE, under HAL. Get some shares and you can be part of the nation it's good for. Big outfit; 106,000 employees, and rather diversified, with most of its effort concentrated in oil and gas production. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

03-24-2006, 08:18 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	April 15th is fast approaching, guess that's why my nipples are sore. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-28-2006, 12:16 AM	#14
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Public in one sense -- publicly traded -- but private in another, where I believe it really counts: in the private sector. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

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