No words necessary...

Troubleshooter · 06-08-2005, 12:02 PM

warch · 06-08-2005, 12:06 PM

red...and even a star...It is a definite style. Soviet realism.

Queen of the Ryche · 06-08-2005, 12:08 PM

Is it just me, or does the foremost guy look like the Governator?

Happy Monkey · 06-08-2005, 12:09 PM

Where's it from?

Troubleshooter · 06-08-2005, 12:12 PM

http://artiloop.blogspot.com/2005/06...t-america.html

MARC

wolf · 06-08-2005, 12:42 PM

I was also going to say that it had a look similar to soviet propaganda posters.

wolf · 06-08-2005, 12:47 PM

Scariness aside, there is another level of scariness that has to do with the vulnerability of our commuter rail system. I haven't ridden Amtrak in quite a while, so I don't know if there is any better security for passenger rail, which I used to regard as a safer mode of transportation, after all, you can't hijack a train, and they seem to derail less often than planes fall out of the sky.

If anyone has a question about what I mean by vulnerable, there are some decent documentaries on the Aum Shinryko Sarin attacks in Japan. It would appear to be very easy to deploy a C-BRNE weapon on a commuter train.

glatt · 06-08-2005, 01:00 PM

Yeah, but you can do that poison gas shit anywhere. A crowded supermarket on the weekend has as many people in it as a train car. There are tens of thousands of similar targets around the country. You can't protect them all.

warch · 06-08-2005, 01:24 PM

I hear the subways in Moscow are simply gorgeous, and used to be really safe. Now without KGB, you do risk the occasional bombing. Not sure what the best approach is.

Happy Monkey · 06-08-2005, 01:29 PM

Any definitive word on whether it's legit? The comments in the link seemed noncommittal, at least until the end.

headsplice · 06-08-2005, 04:58 PM

There are more holes in US security than anyone is talking about:
~5% of all shipping containers (the big, standardized metal ones that everything is moved around the globe in these days) that come into American ports are checked.
Passenger vessels are almost never checked. In fact, if you were to impersonate a well-known private motor yacht captain, all you have to do is hail the Coast Guard and just tell them where you are.
And as far as targets are concerned...hit a NASCAR race or one of the big wrestling events (some of which have 80,000+ people in one building).
But...and if I can find it I'll post a link...al Qaeda has actively turned away from attacking the US directly for a while. They're going after our allies like the UK and Spain to peel them away from us. Then they'll start attacking us directly again. For now, the current administration is doing all their work for them.

wolf · 06-09-2005, 12:49 AM

An attack on a NASCAR race or wrestling match could be devestating. What would become of us as a nation without hairdressers, auto mechanics, and plumbers?

mrnoodle · 06-09-2005, 11:25 AM

you'd wipe out a pretty sizeable contingent of militia, as well

then we'd have to rely on the regular military

wolf · 06-09-2005, 11:28 AM

Nah. Those are only the fluff guys, with the beerguts hanging over their camo.

The real guys don't watch NASCAR. I can't tell you anything more than that.

Queen of the Ryche · 06-09-2005, 12:30 PM

shhh.........dont' say too much.
it is pretty easy to de-rail a commuter train and kill a few people - happened here in L.A. not too long ago. Just park your SUV on the tracks, douse it in gas, and walk away. (Failed suicide attempt, supposedly.)

06-08-2005, 12:02 PM	#1
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06-08-2005, 12:08 PM	#3
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06-08-2005, 12:09 PM	#4
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06-08-2005, 12:12 PM	#5
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	http://artiloop.blogspot.com/2005/06...t-america.html MARC __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

06-08-2005, 12:42 PM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I was also going to say that it had a look similar to soviet propaganda posters. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-08-2005, 12:06 PM	#2
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	red...and even a star...It is a definite style. Soviet realism.

06-08-2005, 12:47 PM	#7
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Scariness aside, there is another level of scariness that has to do with the vulnerability of our commuter rail system. I haven't ridden Amtrak in quite a while, so I don't know if there is any better security for passenger rail, which I used to regard as a safer mode of transportation, after all, you can't hijack a train, and they seem to derail less often than planes fall out of the sky. If anyone has a question about what I mean by vulnerable, there are some decent documentaries on the Aum Shinryko Sarin attacks in Japan. It would appear to be very easy to deploy a C-BRNE weapon on a commuter train. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-08-2005, 01:00 PM	#8
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Yeah, but you can do that poison gas shit anywhere. A crowded supermarket on the weekend has as many people in it as a train car. There are tens of thousands of similar targets around the country. You can't protect them all.

06-08-2005, 01:24 PM	#9
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	I hear the subways in Moscow are simply gorgeous, and used to be really safe. Now without KGB, you do risk the occasional bombing. Not sure what the best approach is.

06-08-2005, 01:29 PM	#10
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Any definitive word on whether it's legit? The comments in the link seemed noncommittal, at least until the end. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

06-08-2005, 04:58 PM	#11
headsplice Relaxed Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 676	There are more holes in US security than anyone is talking about: ~5% of all shipping containers (the big, standardized metal ones that everything is moved around the globe in these days) that come into American ports are checked. Passenger vessels are almost never checked. In fact, if you were to impersonate a well-known private motor yacht captain, all you have to do is hail the Coast Guard and just tell them where you are. And as far as targets are concerned...hit a NASCAR race or one of the big wrestling events (some of which have 80,000+ people in one building). But...and if I can find it I'll post a link...al Qaeda has actively turned away from attacking the US directly for a while. They're going after our allies like the UK and Spain to peel them away from us. Then they'll start attacking us directly again. For now, the current administration is doing all their work for them. __________________ Don't Panic

06-09-2005, 12:49 AM	#12
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	An attack on a NASCAR race or wrestling match could be devestating. What would become of us as a nation without hairdressers, auto mechanics, and plumbers? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-09-2005, 11:25 AM	#13
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	you'd wipe out a pretty sizeable contingent of militia, as well then we'd have to rely on the regular military __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

06-09-2005, 11:28 AM	#14
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Nah. Those are only the fluff guys, with the beerguts hanging over their camo. The real guys don't watch NASCAR. I can't tell you anything more than that. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-09-2005, 12:30 PM	#15
Queen of the Ryche is fleeing the scene Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Beautiful CO Posts: 1,510	shhh.........dont' say too much. it is pretty easy to de-rail a commuter train and kill a few people - happened here in L.A. not too long ago. Just park your SUV on the tracks, douse it in gas, and walk away. (Failed suicide attempt, supposedly.) __________________ Once, in an interview, Chuck Norris admitted that he was not the most awesome thing ever. He declined to elaborate; but I believe we all know that he was referring to the existence of chocolate covered bacon. I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six.

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