God Purity and Truth...

[JBKlyde]

You know I think that if more people saw Jesus as something pure, which he is, then there would be less friction on the battle field of truth. If Jesus were to return today and see all of this "mess" of false profits and corruption he would be very disappointed. So I am making a decision to be pure, and in a world of hate and confusion I see that the biggest 'sins' I have is this... "smoking" "masturbation" and "lying". I think smoking is going to be the hardest to stop. Masturbation for me is just the most pathetic thing and I am not really going too worry to much about it. Lying should be easy to stop because I don't really have much to lie about, I got hung up with a lying spirit there for a little while but I think it's gone. So how bout U. Do you have sins you'd like to repent of....

[Rhianne]

No.

[DanaC]

*shakes head*

[JBKlyde]

Oh common everybody has 'something they are working on... I understand if you don't want to tell, sin is a private issue you don't have to tell if you don't want to. It's not like I'm a catholic priest...

[DanaC]

I don't really believe in 'sin' in the way I think you mean it.

[Rhianne]

I'll be truthful with you JB, morals I'm fine with but I'm not sure I even understand the concept of sin.

[DanaC]

I'm pretty shaky on the concept of purity whilst we're about it.

[JBKlyde]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin

[Rhianne]

The link helped, thanks. I'd now like to change my earlier answer to 'no, definitely not'.

[DanaC]

In Abrahamic contexts, "a sin" is an act that violates God's will.[1][2][3][4] Sin can also be viewed as anything within a person that violates the ideal relationship between them and God.[5]

This becomes a meaningless definition if you don't believe in God.

I'm not trying to be flippant with that. I understand that you do believe in God and in Jesus Christ as the son of God. But I really do not. And so 'sin' as you mean it is meaningless to me.

There's nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with masturbation. It is not sinful. It is just physical pleasure. Lying is only 'wrong' because it makes your word untrustworthy. Sometimes lying is a bad thing, sometimes it's a useful, necessary or even kind thing.

Personally, I think things are 'wrong' if they cause harm. Someone wants to sit in their bedroom smoking pot and wanking like a zoo-bound ape, well then fine. I see no problem with that. Someone wants to walk into a post office toting a gun, well that is wrong. Want to pull your pecker whilst looking at nudie pics, have at it. Want to prey on the weak and instill fear in others, that is wrong.

[JBKlyde]

I'm pretty shaky on the concept of purity whilst we're about it.

think of a new born baby... that child has never committed a "sin" or harmed anyone or any thing, it has no intention of doing any harm or harming anything.. it's pure...

[BigV]

what about original sin? is that baby headed for heaven or hell should he die as an infant? (god forbid)

[JBKlyde]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin

[BigV]

yeah...I get that.

What are your thoughts on the subject? What is your answer to my second question?

[JBKlyde]

I think that every child deserves a fair chance... if you've ever seen the movie the passion of the Christ it depicts a child in the hands of Satan.. I dunno what that means but it sure seems evil now that I think about it... children of Satan are opposite of children of God in the sence that 1John51 says that everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is Born of God. I imagine that if you don't believe that then indeed you are Satans child or simply just in need of salvation.