Nov 1, 2010: Spacey Hood Doodad

xoxoxoBruce · 10-31-2010, 11:47 PM

This is the drawing submitted to the US Patent Office in 1951, by Alexander S. Tremulis.
It's a patent for an aftermarket hood ornament.

-------------------------------grumble . mumble . so what . wtf . who cares . who . why

OK, simmer down... In the 40's, Alexander S. Tremulis had also done the Tucker Automobile prototype designs.
They were pretty spacey, right?

-------------------------------grumble . mumble . so what . wtf . who cares . who . why

Rough crowd...

How about this design, Tremulis did later on?

-------------------------------yay . trek . cool . love trek . wow . kirkmobile . i like . whoopee

Yeah, that's what I thought, ya nerds.

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SPUCK · 11-01-2010, 04:59 AM

!!! That hood ornament was an earlier Enterprise.

newtimer · 11-01-2010, 07:54 AM

Wow! I always wondered why there was a sensor dish on the front of the Tucker Torpedo's hood.

glatt · 11-01-2010, 08:16 AM

I immediately thought of the Enterprise when I saw the hood ornament. Pretty cool!

Clodfobble · 11-01-2010, 08:24 AM

Yeah, I thought the story was going to be that the guy was now suing the Star Trek folks because he came up with the ship design back in the 50s.

Happy Monkey · 11-01-2010, 09:49 AM

What on Earth (or any Federation planet) is the purpose of a patent for a hood ornament? It's nonfunctional design, shouldn't it be a copyright or trademark?

Trilby · 11-01-2010, 09:57 AM

I want that cool red car.

glatt · 11-01-2010, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

What on Earth (or any Federation planet) is the purpose of a patent for a hood ornament? It's nonfunctional design, shouldn't it be a copyright or trademark?

Design patent. You can patent designs. Car shapes are patented all the time.

monster · 11-01-2010, 10:20 AM

That hood ornament would look most excellent on my Windstar.

wolf · 11-01-2010, 10:31 AM

Now I want to find my copy of Gene Roddenberry's Inside Star Trek and Making of Star Trek to see if he mentions Tremulis in the section on determining the design of the Enterprise. I don't remember his name in there, though.

I also immediately thought of the Enterprise when I saw the design drawings.

TomBow · 11-01-2010, 12:06 PM

It is a nice yarn, but I think it has the making of an urban legend.
The star trek books I have do not mention Tremulis at all. they just mention the collaboration of Roddenberry and Matt Jefferies, Sam Peeples was also mentioned.
They searched Sci-Fi magazines back to 1931, no mention of any hood ornaments.

Trilby · 11-01-2010, 12:14 PM

See?

Mention Star Trek and the nerds come out.

spudcon · 11-01-2010, 12:36 PM

Hey! Just because I have a pocket protector, glasses held together with scotch tape, a booger smeared on my back, and a Star Trek shirt doesn't mean I'm a nerd!

monster · 11-01-2010, 12:39 PM

Matt Jeffries is credited with the design of the enterprise in most of the articles I've seen. Question is, did he steal the design? Hmmm?

wolf · 11-01-2010, 01:16 PM

Inside Star Trek has the original drawings ... first one looked like a baseball with a couple of engine nacelles poked into it, as I recall.

Matt Jefferies is the designer whose name I remember also. He's why they're called "Jefferies Tubes.

Here's an article with the drawings.

10-31-2010, 11:47 PM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Nov 1, 2010: Spacey Hood Doodad This is the drawing submitted to the US Patent Office in 1951, by Alexander S. Tremulis. It's a patent for an aftermarket hood ornament. -------------------------------grumble . mumble . so what . wtf . who cares . who . why OK, simmer down... In the 40's, Alexander S. Tremulis had also done the Tucker Automobile prototype designs. They were pretty spacey, right? -------------------------------grumble . mumble . so what . wtf . who cares . who . why Rough crowd... How about this design, Tremulis did later on? -------------------------------yay . trek . cool . love trek . wow . kirkmobile . i like . whoopee Yeah, that's what I thought, ya nerds. link __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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11-01-2010, 09:49 AM	#6
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11-01-2010, 09:57 AM	#7
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I want that cool red car. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-01-2010, 10:20 AM	#9
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	That hood ornament would look most excellent on my Windstar. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

11-01-2010, 04:59 AM	#2
SPUCK Professor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,911	!!! That hood ornament was an earlier Enterprise.

11-01-2010, 07:54 AM	#3
newtimer Operations Operative Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 479	Wow! I always wondered why there was a sensor dish on the front of the Tucker Torpedo's hood.

11-01-2010, 08:16 AM	#4
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I immediately thought of the Enterprise when I saw the hood ornament. Pretty cool!

11-01-2010, 10:31 AM	#10
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Now I want to find my copy of Gene Roddenberry's Inside Star Trek and Making of Star Trek to see if he mentions Tremulis in the section on determining the design of the Enterprise. I don't remember his name in there, though. I also immediately thought of the Enterprise when I saw the design drawings. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-01-2010, 12:06 PM	#11
TomBow Non-Newbie Sort Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA Posts: 6	It is a nice yarn, but I think it has the making of an urban legend. The star trek books I have do not mention Tremulis at all. they just mention the collaboration of Roddenberry and Matt Jefferies, Sam Peeples was also mentioned. They searched Sci-Fi magazines back to 1931, no mention of any hood ornaments.

11-01-2010, 12:14 PM	#12
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	See? Mention Star Trek and the nerds come out. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-01-2010, 12:36 PM	#13
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	Hey! Just because I have a pocket protector, glasses held together with scotch tape, a booger smeared on my back, and a Star Trek shirt doesn't mean I'm a nerd! __________________ "I believe that being despised by the despicable is as good as being admired by the admirable."

11-01-2010, 12:39 PM	#14
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Matt Jeffries is credited with the design of the enterprise in most of the articles I've seen. Question is, did he steal the design? Hmmm? __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

11-01-2010, 01:16 PM	#15
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Inside Star Trek has the original drawings ... first one looked like a baseball with a couple of engine nacelles poked into it, as I recall. Matt Jefferies is the designer whose name I remember also. He's why they're called "Jefferies Tubes. Here's an article with the drawings. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

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