One for Lookout123: Win by more than 5 points = you lose

[squirell nutkin]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06...a-league-says/


"chumps rejoice as champs taste the bitter sting of defeat."

[ZenGum]

Reasonable ends ... stupid means.

[lumberjim]

the pussification of America

[classicman]

Great lessons that'll teach the kids - not.

[W.HI.P]

I agree!
I think it should be the same idea in hockey ...maybe make it 7 or something.
Its unsportsmanlike to demolish a weaker opponent.
Secure the win and relax a little bit.
Especially on an international level.
I see no greater disgrace than a team having secured the win, and going out for more.
Such attitudes should be met with physical fight.
to see a limit implimented as law is a great suprise, and hopefully it will expand all the way up to the professional level.

[Shawnee123]

Eek: life isn't always fair. Sports teach you that important lesson.

When I played real sports, if we got way ahead, the coach would put in the second and third strings...if they could've thrown the cheerleaders on the court they would have. I agree about sportsmanship, I was taught that lesson, too. I had my ass handed to me on the court and on the track, and I graciously lost, just as I graciously, sometimes, won.

It's time we learned: not EVERYONE is good at sports, nor do they have to be. I want a trophy and an A in chemistry: that bitch who always got an A in chemistry wasn't being fair to me...she should have quit at a B, so I would have felt better about myself.

Ugh...

eta: there was a "run rule" in baseball and softball...don't remember what it was exactly but once a team was ahead by a jazillion runs they could call the game: I believe both coaches amicably agreed to this arrangement.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

eta: there was a "run rule" in baseball and softball...don't remember what it was exactly but once a team was ahead by a jazillion runs they could call the game: I believe both coaches amicably agreed to this arrangement.

The slaughter rule. For baseball in my state, the game was called after a team was up by ten runs in the 5th inning. This did not include playoff games. My junior year, we lost in the second round 35-1. The slaughter rule was extended to playoffs the next year.

hehehe. Something to laugh about later.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

When I played real sports, if we got way ahead, the coach would put in the second and third strings...if they could've thrown the cheerleaders on the court they would have.

I'm guessing this rule is because some coaches just don't have the integrity to do this. It's a shame when you feel the need to legislate good sportsmanship. I reckon it will ionly serve to make those teams even less sportsmanlike, because they just don't get it and now they have something to grind their axe on.

[TheDaVinciChode]

If you get absolutely trounced, by the opposing team... it'll make you re-think your tactics, your player-choices, and your entire training regime... How is that a bad thing?

Sure, it's rather poor play, for a team to obliterate another, but it does HELP the other team, too.

Sportsmanship is not just about graciously winning, or losing, it's about accepting the game for what it is, accepting the other team's abilities, good, AND bad, for what they are... How is it "good sportsmanship" to tell the superior team that they'll lose, if they play to the best of their abilities?

Nanny state... For shame. Kids are stronger and more able to cope with things, than we make them out to be... and if we continue to coddle them, to "protect them" from everything "bad" in the world, how will they ever grow up, how will they ever be able to survive, alone?

[classicman]

On top of al the bad messages this sends to the kids... I wonder how long it will take for a team to be down 4-0 to then put the ball into their own net "accidentally" Well thats 5-0! We win

[TheDaVinciChode]

Originally Posted by classicman

On top of al the bad messages this sends to the kids... I wonder how long it will take for a team to be down 4-0 to then put the ball into their own net "accidentally" Well thats 5-0! We win

Excellent idea... of course, if they did this, before the end of the game, well - The other team would start shooting own-goals, too, to avoid losing the game; they'd just ensure it was one less goal, than the opposing team.

Soon enough, you'd have entire teams of people, fighting to get the ball back to THEIR net, instead of their opponent's net.

Anarchy will ensue. Then death. Then the end of the world.

Just in time for 2012. Crap. We're screwed... and it's all your fault, classicman, for giving people this idea!

[squirell nutkin]

In a fight, and sports are ritualized fights, when the guy who is clearly winning asks, "Had enough?" the guy who is getting his ass kicked can say "Uncle" and the fight is over.

That might be appropriate like the run rule or slaughter rule that Shawnee and Hawkeye mention.

To penalize someone for winning as being unsportsmanlike is stupid. The other team keeps coming back out on the field means they haven't given up. And in some cases, maybe that is a great lesson to learn: Not giving up even when you haven't got a snowflake's chance in hell.

[Shawnee123]

My younger brother addressed exactly that when I discussed this with my family today. His oldest daughter is out of his coaching realm, but he was keeping the records when a mom came up to the coach and asked him why he was keeping the daughter in the game when she was walking everyone. These girls are 9 years old. Well, the coach kept this girl in the game and she ended the game with two great strike-outs.

My bro was like "you get stronger from adversity."

His coaching style is to teach the basics, whether it is baseball or softball or basketball, and encourage the kids to have fun.

[jinx]

It's a sport, not a hobby. Play hard or get off the field.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by monster

I'm guessing this rule is because some coaches just don't have the integrity to do this. It's a shame when you feel the need to legislate good sportsmanship.

Not necessarily. I played baseball for a good number of years and I can say that once a team gets hot, there is almost nothing the coach can do to keep their team from scoring. In the 35-1 game I mentioned, the backups were put in early and they did just as well as the starters. We went through five pitchers and only one of them was able to do somewhat decently. We had no confidence. They were dripping confidence. Their coach could have only prevented the score by putting players in positions they usually don't play (very bad sportsmanship in baseball) and literally told their players to not hit the ball (something you don't do).

In high school baseball, and I'm guessing softball too, big score differences are going to happen and most of the time it isn't the coach's fault or bad sportsmanship on their part. Also, many losing coaches will not "give up" the game as well. That is why the slaughter rule exists. To prevent 5 hour long games that are clearly one sided.


Saying that, I strongly disagree with the five run rule. Different circumstances.