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Griff · 02-13-2010, 12:51 PM

Following an incident in which a foil punctured the FIE transparent visor mask, the FIE has removed their required use at FIE competitions.

The International Fencing Federation (FIE) announced that the use of the transparent visor masks would no longer be required at foil events pending an investigation into the causes of an accident where a foil broke through the Lexan protective plate during a foil bout at the European Junior Championships.
On November 1st, the Swedish Fencing Federation (www.fencing.se) reported that
the Lexan visor of a fencing mask was penetrated during the men's foil competition at the European Junior Championships in Odense. The fencer was not fatally injured but the incident is considered very serious.

The dirty little secret was that the FIE pushed this piece of crap on the fencing community to increase the watchability of fencing. It is the equivalent of Fox sports glowing puck. Fencing is not a great spectator sport if you lack background, mandating a clear mask so you can watch competitors mutter about directing isn't going to help. TV before safety f'in French MBA's.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-13-2010, 03:20 PM

Ain't the same.

ZenGum · 02-13-2010, 05:44 PM

WTF? A foil broke it? What would an epee do? Dumbarse MBAs.

Griff · 02-13-2010, 08:53 PM

An epee would've gone right through the kids head.

squirell nutkin · 02-13-2010, 09:03 PM

We just had a lexan bowl shatter at our house the other day.

Something tells me this is counterfeit Chinese lexan. I'll take bets.

Griff · 02-13-2010, 09:16 PM

A remarkable outcome of this evaluation was that material used is
not Sabic Innovative Plastic polycarbonate with brandname
LEXAN. The visor was manufactured by means of an injection
moulding process stead drapeforming. Material used was an
uncoated polycarbonate.

We're halfway there already.

squirell nutkin · 02-13-2010, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff

A remarkable outcome of this evaluation was that material used is
not Sabic Innovative Plastic polycarbonate with brandname
LEXAN. The visor was manufactured by means of an injection
moulding process stead drapeforming. Material used was an
uncoated polycarbonate.

We're halfway there already.

Quote:

... Material used was an
uncoated polycarbonate. And if we could only read this Chinese writing on the label, we'd be able to figure out where it came from...

Perhaps this is the rest of the journey?

ZenGum · 02-14-2010, 03:30 AM

Now now, no lunging to conclusions....

squirell nutkin · 02-14-2010, 02:46 PM

touché

monster · 02-14-2010, 04:37 PM

I see your point.

classicman · 02-14-2010, 04:41 PM

. . .no matter how you slice it.

Gravdigr · 02-15-2010, 01:27 PM

lumberjim · 02-15-2010, 03:47 PM

i'm still on the fence ing

Clodfobble · 02-15-2010, 05:37 PM

I saw something the other day that's got to be one of the worst ideas for humanity ever.

So there are these websites (there are several, but I won't even link to any of them) that sell various high-dollar items under a modified "auction" setup. The price starts at basically nothing, and each bid bumps the price incrementally by 10 cents. BUT, it costs a dollar to bid, and every bid adds 30 seconds to the auction time to give everyone else a chance to respond.

So let's say you've got a group of people bidding on a new PS3, with a starting price of $5. If the final closing price is as low as $75--which is of course far less than retail value--that means the website actually got paid a total of $700, a dollar for every dime bid all the way up. And there are dozens of schleps who paid who-knows-how-much for their bids and didn't win the item.

But here's where the real schadenfreude comes in: there is a list of everyone who has bid on an item, and how many times. In just a few minutes of wandering around this site, we found an auction where there were basically only two primary bidders left going back and forth over an electronics item whose actual worth was about $300. The auction value was slightly over $200... and each of these guys had bid over 200 times each. So no matter what, one of them was going to pay more than $100 over the retail price, and the other was going to pay hundreds for nothing. Neither of them was going to walk away from it. It's like you can watch people's lives being ruined right in front of you, 30 seconds at a time.

skysidhe · 02-15-2010, 10:40 PM

Some people like to play with sharp sticks but I still don't see the point of it.

Seriously, that new mask looks like it's from the original series of Star Trek's decompression chamber.

02-13-2010, 12:51 PM	#1
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Products to avoid as if your life depends on it. Following an incident in which a foil punctured the FIE transparent visor mask, the FIE has removed their required use at FIE competitions. The International Fencing Federation (FIE) announced that the use of the transparent visor masks would no longer be required at foil events pending an investigation into the causes of an accident where a foil broke through the Lexan protective plate during a foil bout at the European Junior Championships. On November 1st, the Swedish Fencing Federation (www.fencing.se) reported that the Lexan visor of a fencing mask was penetrated during the men's foil competition at the European Junior Championships in Odense. The fencer was not fatally injured but the incident is considered very serious. The dirty little secret was that the FIE pushed this piece of crap on the fencing community to increase the watchability of fencing. It is the equivalent of Fox sports glowing puck. Fencing is not a great spectator sport if you lack background, mandating a clear mask so you can watch competitors mutter about directing isn't going to help. TV before safety f'in French MBA's. Attached Images __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

02-13-2010, 03:20 PM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Ain't the same. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-13-2010, 05:44 PM	#3
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	WTF? A foil broke it? What would an epee do? Dumbarse MBAs. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

02-13-2010, 08:53 PM	#4
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	An epee would've gone right through the kids head. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

02-13-2010, 09:03 PM	#5
squirell nutkin has a second hand user title Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in a Nut House Posts: 2,017	We just had a lexan bowl shatter at our house the other day. Something tells me this is counterfeit Chinese lexan. I'll take bets. __________________ And now I'm finished posting.

02-13-2010, 09:16 PM	#6
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	A remarkable outcome of this evaluation was that material used is not Sabic Innovative Plastic polycarbonate with brandname LEXAN. The visor was manufactured by means of an injection moulding process stead drapeforming. Material used was an uncoated polycarbonate. We're halfway there already. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

02-14-2010, 03:30 AM	#8
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Now now, no lunging to conclusions.... __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

02-14-2010, 02:46 PM	#9
squirell nutkin has a second hand user title Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in a Nut House Posts: 2,017	touché __________________ And now I'm finished posting.

02-14-2010, 04:37 PM	#10
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02-14-2010, 04:41 PM	#11
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	. . .no matter how you slice it. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

02-15-2010, 01:27 PM	#12
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02-15-2010, 03:47 PM	#13
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	i'm still on the fence ing __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-15-2010, 05:37 PM	#14
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I saw something the other day that's got to be one of the worst ideas for humanity ever. So there are these websites (there are several, but I won't even link to any of them) that sell various high-dollar items under a modified "auction" setup. The price starts at basically nothing, and each bid bumps the price incrementally by 10 cents. BUT, it costs a dollar to bid, and every bid adds 30 seconds to the auction time to give everyone else a chance to respond. So let's say you've got a group of people bidding on a new PS3, with a starting price of $5. If the final closing price is as low as $75--which is of course far less than retail value--that means the website actually got paid a total of $700, a dollar for every dime bid all the way up. And there are dozens of schleps who paid who-knows-how-much for their bids and didn't win the item. But here's where the real schadenfreude comes in: there is a list of everyone who has bid on an item, and how many times. In just a few minutes of wandering around this site, we found an auction where there were basically only two primary bidders left going back and forth over an electronics item whose actual worth was about $300. The auction value was slightly over $200... and each of these guys had bid over 200 times each. So no matter what, one of them was going to pay more than $100 over the retail price, and the other was going to pay hundreds for nothing. Neither of them was going to walk away from it. It's like you can watch people's lives being ruined right in front of you, 30 seconds at a time. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

02-15-2010, 10:40 PM	#15
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	Some people like to play with sharp sticks but I still don't see the point of it. Seriously, that new mask looks like it's from the original series of Star Trek's decompression chamber.

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