The Snake begins to eat it's tail

TheMercenary · 01-16-2009, 12:58 PM

Panel chairmen fighting mad over snubs by Pelosi

By Jared Allen
Posted: 01/15/09 07:44 PM [ET]

Senior House Democrats have a message for their Speaker: We’re mad as hell, and we’re only taking it this one last time.

As congressional Democrats take the lead in responding to the sinking economy, subcommittee and even some full-committee chairmen — who normally wield significant influence in writing legislation — have been forced to wait on the sidelines as monumental bills are written in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) office.

That often leaves room for cursory input from lawmakers who have carved out expert niches for themselves.

Many of these members are complaining louder and more often to Democratic leaders that a return to regular order, where bills are written in committee, is long overdue. And some warn that if the closed-door, truncated legislative process doesn’t end with the economic recovery bill, frustration could boil over, perhaps onto the floor.

“This is really set to come to a head soon,” said Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), who chairs the Energy and Commerce Oversight subcommittee. “The question is: Are we actually going to get a chance to legislate? There’s an opportunity to turn this corner, but we have not done that yet.”

A number of Democrats have said caucus meetings are growing contentious as promises from their leaders to return to a regular process have again been postponed because of “emergency” legislation.

Last week, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) indicated that he “expected” a number of committee markups on the stimulus bill, including a possible markup in the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.

On Wednesday, though, Democratic leaders unveiled a plan to have the $825 billion bill marked up by only two committees: Ways and Means and Appropriations.

Many frustrated Democrats, while sensitive to the need to enact these bills quickly, feel like they’ve been frozen out of the process.

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http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...009-01-15.html

Sundae · 01-16-2009, 02:59 PM

When you use the word "its" - think. If you mean IT IS, then use an apostrophe. Anything else, don't.

It's (IT IS, see?) a really simple rule.

So in the sentence, "The snake begins to eat its tail" the meaning is not, "The snake begins to eat it is tail" so therefore the apostrophe is not necessary.

Just a tip. Of a tail maybe.

Pie · 01-16-2009, 03:13 PM

Floccinaucinihilipilificatrix!

TheMercenary · 01-16-2009, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

When you use the word "its" - think. If you mean IT IS, then use an apostrophe. Anything else, don't.

It's (IT IS, see?) a really simple rule.

So in the sentence, "The snake begins to eat its tail" the meaning is not, "The snake begins to eat it is tail" so therefore the apostrophe is not necessary.

Just a tip. Of a tail maybe.

Yea, I always screw that up thinking it is to show possession, when that should be reserved for nouns and pronouns. My bad.

Trilby · 01-16-2009, 03:47 PM

Scully (from the X-Files) had one of those tattooed on her butt or there 'bouts. Kewl.

classicman · 01-17-2009, 12:42 AM

re: the original post. . . .
Call the Whaaaaaambulance

TheMercenary · 01-17-2009, 05:35 AM

you may eat those words.

classicman · 01-17-2009, 11:12 AM

Or rather they may eat their words.

richlevy · 01-17-2009, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pie

Floccinaucinihilipilificatrix!

Wow. Floccinaucinihilipilification

TheMercenary · 01-17-2009, 06:24 PM

If you think this is worthless you get what you deserve economically.

BigV · 01-17-2009, 07:22 PM

Apostrophe: it's for contraction.

TheMercenary · 01-17-2009, 07:47 PM

Glad to see you back bro. Dive in.

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-19-2009, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Yea, I always screw that up thinking it is to show possession, when that should be reserved for nouns and pronouns. My bad.

Possessive Apostrophe S: Nouns do. Possessive pronouns don't. So as not to get mixed up with contractions. The rule isn't even arbitrary; it's got a reason.

So ambiguity only pops up with a contraction constructed on a noun -- and you resort to context to determine meaning.

One should always keep a copy of Strunk & White near to hand. Despite its decretal tone, which can irritate a little, only one or two of its usage ukases have obsolesced since it was written for the help of incoming freshmen in the nineteen-twenties.

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-19-2009, 01:38 AM

Floccinaucinihilipilification? Oh come on -- how many times have you seen me do just th... oh, I can't go on.

TheMercenary · 01-19-2009, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

oh, I can't go on.

thanks for that.

01-16-2009, 12:58 PM	#1
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	The Snake begins to eat it's tail Panel chairmen fighting mad over snubs by Pelosi By Jared Allen Posted: 01/15/09 07:44 PM [ET] Senior House Democrats have a message for their Speaker: We’re mad as hell, and we’re only taking it this one last time. As congressional Democrats take the lead in responding to the sinking economy, subcommittee and even some full-committee chairmen — who normally wield significant influence in writing legislation — have been forced to wait on the sidelines as monumental bills are written in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) office. That often leaves room for cursory input from lawmakers who have carved out expert niches for themselves. Many of these members are complaining louder and more often to Democratic leaders that a return to regular order, where bills are written in committee, is long overdue. And some warn that if the closed-door, truncated legislative process doesn’t end with the economic recovery bill, frustration could boil over, perhaps onto the floor. “This is really set to come to a head soon,” said Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), who chairs the Energy and Commerce Oversight subcommittee. “The question is: Are we actually going to get a chance to legislate? There’s an opportunity to turn this corner, but we have not done that yet.” A number of Democrats have said caucus meetings are growing contentious as promises from their leaders to return to a regular process have again been postponed because of “emergency” legislation. Last week, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) indicated that he “expected” a number of committee markups on the stimulus bill, including a possible markup in the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. On Wednesday, though, Democratic leaders unveiled a plan to have the $825 billion bill marked up by only two committees: Ways and Means and Appropriations. Many frustrated Democrats, while sensitive to the need to enact these bills quickly, feel like they’ve been frozen out of the process. continues http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...009-01-15.html __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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01-17-2009, 12:42 AM	#6
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	re: the original post. . . . Call the Whaaaaaambulance __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-17-2009, 05:35 AM	#7
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	you may eat those words. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-16-2009, 02:59 PM	#2
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	When you use the word "its" - think. If you mean IT IS, then use an apostrophe. Anything else, don't. It's (IT IS, see?) a really simple rule. So in the sentence, "The snake begins to eat its tail" the meaning is not, "The snake begins to eat it is tail" so therefore the apostrophe is not necessary. Just a tip. Of a tail maybe.

01-17-2009, 11:12 AM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Or rather they may eat their words. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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