Politics, War, and Sex

[richlevy]

Someone made a comment about discussions of politics, war, and sex on the Cellar.

Well, how about a thread that involves all three.

I was looking for a quote from "Club Paradise", uttered by Peter O'Toole's character. Something slanderous and clever about Club Paradise and debauchery.

Well, type a few words in a search engine and you never know what you will get.

Wicked Pictures Launches Operation Desert Stormy

We're all pretty familiar with porn movies ripping off popular titles of books, movies, etc. This might be the first time an adult movie has ripped off the name of a war.


"Over There" a 2005 dramatic series about Iraq, tanked after the first season of 13 episodes, low ratings, and criticism about patriotism and bad taste.

A lot of discussion revolved around "Hogan's Heroes" a comedy about a WWII POW camp that debuted 20 years after the wars end. There had been dramatic plays and movies about the war, but many people felt a comedy was in bad taste, even 20 years later.

Desert Storm was the first Gulf War, which ended in 1991. Is an adult movie named after a war disrespectful since we are back in Iraq with the current results? Would the troops be upset, or would they want free copies?

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by richlevy

Is an adult movie named after a war disrespectful since we are back in Iraq with the current results? Would the troops be upset, or would they want free copies?

No clue. What do you think?

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by Cloud

No clue. What do you think?

Some of these guys will be in the desert in an Islamic state for 14 months. I'd say Wicked should have a f**ckin USO tour. Of course, the abstinence-only pussies running this war keep on sending over turkeys, GWB, and John McCain.

I think someone should tell them GWB isn't the bush these guys want to see.

[Spexxvet]

My favorite is "Shaving Ryan's Privates".

[Dagney]

Originally Posted by richlevy

Some of these guys will be in the desert in an Islamic state for 14 months. I'd say Wicked should have a f**ckin USO tour. Of course, the abstinence-only pussies running this war keep on sending over turkeys, GWB, and John McCain.

I think someone should tell them GWB isn't the bush these guys want to see.

There's quite a list of what can and can't go to guys in Iraq and Afghanistan - magazines that aren't that 'racy' are pretty high on the list. FHM is one that I remember not being able to be sent over when my brother was stationed in Afghanistan for a year. (Not that I read it, but I don't remember it being any worse than Cosmo for content).

I think the USO attempts to present the 'baseball, hotdog, apple pie Americana' version of the US - no matter where they go - however, being in an Islamic country - the attempt to 'clean up' American culture is probably a bit heavier. (Don't crap in the living room of the family you're visiting so to speak - even if they don't want you there to begin with).

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Dagney

(Don't crap in the living room of the family you're visiting so to speak - even if they don't want you there to begin with).

And just how much do you suppose any of the Iraqis who weren't living in Tikrit wanted to keep Saddam around? Any likelihood they could have made the Hussein al-Tikriti dynasty go away without our coming in? "To begin with" is hardly the right way to put it. Some firefights aside, didn't Saddam's army pretty much decide it didn't want to die for Saddam or his sons?

Remember that dog and pony show of an election shortly before the invasion that lifted the Saddamite yoke? One hundred percent turnout and one hundred percent of the vote, for dear old Saddam, running unopposed, and ballots vetted by government agents -- not remotely a secret ballot. Yeah, the country knew this was an act of political masturbation. It made Saddam feel good, but it accomplished precisely nothing other.

No, their previous situation was one without hope of change. Their present situation is simply full of the seeds of change. They'll be better off about the time they actually decide they should have a democracy -- but it may be that we still have several tens of thousands of hardcore fascists to kill first.