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City in Texas ...to keep out illegal immigrants,
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I thought that was a bit extreme, then I read:
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Oh, can we keep this on-topic please, this is a legal issue, not a racial one. It has never been about race and is not now. Last edited by rkzenrage; 12-13-2006 at 05:43 PM. |
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Just how are they getting their numbers, I wonder.
rkzenrage, did you take a look at grassfire.org's website to see what they're all about? |
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Broken Borders, near the bottom of the page.
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Why was it that people were shouting that it was the fault of businesses who hired illegal immigrants that they come here and the landlords that knowingly rent to them, and now that communities are doing something about this from the ground up it's being decried???
I also have major issues with the legal Mexican and latino citizens here who protest these laws on the grounds of discrimination or anything like that. It has nothing to do with race, only legal status. Nobody should say they are being 'alienated' because illegal aliens of their race are now having the law applied to them.
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And so the price of American grocery store produce increased 20% or more because America needs 1,800,000 immigrant workers and will only license 29,000 - due to racist laws.
Meanwhile, some should first learn facts. Massive increases in crime are occurring in Central America because America exports its gang crimes to those nations. Central America did not create the Bloods and Crypts. These are another American export. But when emotion replaces 'first learning facts', then the myths claim crime is from illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants were recently rounded up in Swift packing factories. Why did those illegals have jobs? Because they all pay into Social Security and pay withholding taxes - that remain unclaimed. Reality is that illegals mean more money for government - a profit. But again, hate and emotion ignores reality to claim illegal immigrants live off American services. The problem is that America needs million of legal immigrants. The only reason they must be illegal - we stupidly restrict the number using racist (emotional) reasons. But then if we made them legal, government would have to refund their withholding tax money. Then illegals would be granted what they deserve. Better to just call them nigger scum; take social security and taxes from them. Once that was called discrimination when people could see the difference between facts verses bias and hate. America desperately needs those immigrants. A smarter America would eliminate silly numerical restrictions that make them illegal - that make them have to turn to criminals for support. |
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How many do you employ tw?
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Don't worry, we won't confuse facts with your reality. :p
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From FOX News
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Umm.....how many murders are committed by average, legal citizens and how many of the child abuse cases don't involve an illegal immigrant? Since these things tend to go hand in hand with every large grouping of people, I'm guessing any increase of population, legal or illegal, is going to push up those stats. Do we have some kind of comparitor?
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Again, I can only see it in simplistic terms - if they are illegal (regardless of race, colour, background) they should not be living and working in the country.
If America needs them, it will learn pretty fast and can increase the number allowed to enter legally. I do understand it is difficult to police the borders and monitor the situation, but I can't see why anyone would have a problem with a country that upheld its own laws - I certainly do not see that as racist.
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If they were not needed, then why do they so routinely and quckly find jobs? And why does massive enforcement of immigration laws only result in recession? |
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For a perspective "from the other side," I highly recommend to everyone the documentary Wetback. Gives a painfully clear idea of how complicated and far-reaching the issue really is. |
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