5/1/2004: Skin gun

Undertoad · 05-01-2004, 11:30 AM

No, it's art: the above gun is made out of skin wrapped over a gun-shaped frame.

But not just any skin; it's the human skin of the actual artist, Dutch woman Joanneke Meester. Actual skin, from her abdomen, taken under general anesthesia: a flap of 20 centimeters (8 inches) long and four centimeters (1.6 inches) high.

"It took me about an hour to make (the pistol) and at a certain point the edge started drying up and you could see a little blood on the skin, congealed," she said.

"If everyone made a pistol from their own skin, I think they would think twice about using a gun. I think there would be less violence in the world," she said. "But it's not that easy. Violence will always exist."

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wolf · 05-01-2004, 11:42 AM

She had the skin removed under general anethesia.

That is NOT suffering for her art.

Back in MY day ... she woulda flayed her own flesh with a rusty safety razor blade, photographed the whole event, and made a gallery show of it.

At least she could have made an actual size gun, instead of a crude looking Barbie gun.

zippyt · 05-01-2004, 11:43 AM

That is FUCKING GROSS!!!!!

Brigliadore · 05-01-2004, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by zippyt
That is FUCKING GROSS!!!!!

My sentiments exactly.

jaguar · 05-01-2004, 11:52 AM

what the fuck, I don't get her point. If I made a pistol out of my own skin I'd be asking wolf to take me in for a while.

wolf · 05-01-2004, 12:09 PM

Here in Pennsylvania I can do that without your asking ... and for that kind of behavior, too (some states won't commit on self-mutilation).

Undertoad · 05-01-2004, 01:06 PM

Oops oops oops I was wrong wolf, it was done under a local.

Still, your point stands

xoxoxoBruce · 05-01-2004, 01:09 PM

It's hard to imagine what kind of crap you'd have to come up with, not to qualify as "art".

jinx · 05-01-2004, 01:11 PM

She should have spent a little time in the sun first.... that's one pastey gun.

jinx · 05-01-2004, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
It's hard to imagine what kind of crap you'd have to come up with, not to qualify as "art".

Something crappier than crap I guess.

Troubleshooter · 05-01-2004, 04:40 PM

Maybe we could convince her to sculpt one out of her grey matter. She doesn't appear to be using it anyway.

ItrouReor · 05-01-2004, 07:53 PM

So...........what happens next ? I get some bad visions involving tabasco sauce and a hot frying pan.

perth · 05-01-2004, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by ItrouReor
So...........what happens next ? I get some bad visions involving tabasco sauce and a hot frying pan.

And so ItrouReor makes a spectacular entrance, and Perth pukes.

Welcome to the Cellar, ItrouReor.

SteveDallas · 05-01-2004, 08:47 PM

Nice one, ItrouReor!!

DanaC · 05-02-2004, 07:41 AM

Hahaha. Good show ItrouReor! Welcome to the cellar.

05-01-2004, 11:30 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	5/1/2004: Skin gun No, it's art: the above gun is made out of skin wrapped over a gun-shaped frame. But not just any skin; it's the human skin of the actual artist, Dutch woman Joanneke Meester. Actual skin, from her abdomen, taken under general anesthesia: a flap of 20 centimeters (8 inches) long and four centimeters (1.6 inches) high. "It took me about an hour to make (the pistol) and at a certain point the edge started drying up and you could see a little blood on the skin, congealed," she said. "If everyone made a pistol from their own skin, I think they would think twice about using a gun. I think there would be less violence in the world," she said. "But it's not that easy. Violence will always exist." full story

05-01-2004, 11:42 AM	#2
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	She had the skin removed under general anethesia. That is NOT suffering for her art. Back in MY day ... she woulda flayed her own flesh with a rusty safety razor blade, photographed the whole event, and made a gallery show of it. At least she could have made an actual size gun, instead of a crude looking Barbie gun. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-01-2004, 11:43 AM	#3
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	That is FUCKING GROSS!!!!! __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

05-01-2004, 11:52 AM	#5
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	what the fuck, I don't get her point. If I made a pistol out of my own skin I'd be asking wolf to take me in for a while. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

05-01-2004, 12:09 PM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Here in Pennsylvania I can do that without your asking ... and for that kind of behavior, too (some states won't commit on self-mutilation). __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-01-2004, 01:06 PM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Oops oops oops I was wrong wolf, it was done under a local. Still, your point stands

05-01-2004, 01:09 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It's hard to imagine what kind of crap you'd have to come up with, not to qualify as "art". __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-01-2004, 01:11 PM	#9
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	She should have spent a little time in the sun first.... that's one pastey gun. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

05-01-2004, 04:40 PM	#11
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Maybe we could convince her to sculpt one out of her grey matter. She doesn't appear to be using it anyway. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

05-01-2004, 07:53 PM	#12
ItrouReor Kinda New Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1	So...........what happens next ? I get some bad visions involving tabasco sauce and a hot frying pan. __________________ That's not a bicycle rack, that's my arse !

05-01-2004, 08:47 PM	#14
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	Nice one, ItrouReor!!

05-02-2004, 07:41 AM	#15
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Hahaha. Good show ItrouReor! Welcome to the cellar.

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