Republican Voters

xoxoxoBruce · 01-29-2016, 01:29 PM

New York Magazine asked 100 Republicans in NH and IA, who they were voting for or leaning toward. There were some thoughtful answers, some, to my thinking, were misguided, but this guy just blew my mind.

Quote:

Earle Kolb
From: Salem, NH
Age: 34
Occupation: Unemployed
Supporting: Cruz

Ted Cruz is the most conservative guy in the bunch and he’s frankly the smartest guy in the bunch. I was leaning toward Rand Paul until Rand started to give me the impression that he was a little soft. Largely, the reason why I’m a conservative is because I’ve been on public assistance my whole life, and I have always felt ashamed of it. I have two major health conditions — cerebral palsy and an injury to my left hemidiaphragm. The whole idea of welfare and entitlements is to create a permanent underclass. They’ll give you plenty of handouts, but they won’t give you any hand-ups.”

WTF??

Griff · 01-29-2016, 03:43 PM

Thank you sir, may I have another?

Happy Monkey · 01-29-2016, 07:18 PM

Another Craig T. Nelson.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-29-2016, 08:10 PM

Yes, exactly, and there are so many more.

Spexxvet · 01-30-2016, 08:16 AM

He forgot his mental disability

BigV · 01-31-2016, 11:38 PM

xoB, your link is broken.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-31-2016, 11:58 PM

That appears to be happening a lot these days, stories go up for a time, then the links are broken when the item gets shipped off to an archive somewhere.

Spexxvet · 02-01-2016, 08:15 AM

I've run into many people over the years that hold a set of beliefs that is in conflict with the organization they belong to or the philosophy they espouse. I chuckled at my Catholic Facebook friends who took the "what religion should you be?" and got Buddhist as a result. They continue to attend Our Lady of Perpetual Intolerance. It's a blanket for them.

Undertoad · 02-01-2016, 09:07 AM

But back to Earle Kolb, we may parse his statement correctly even if he failed to state it well. The public is not trained on how to answer questions from the press. You or I would fuck it up similarly. Maybe.

Earle has been forced to accept funds because he's disabled. If he weren't disabled, there would be nothing you could do to stop him. He looks at the abled who take public funds without shame, and knows that his own shame is a morally strong position. He knows things we don't: that, without this sort of attitude, we are doomed. That that a society of hard workers will succeed, and a society of lazy bums will not. He is old New England stock, making it work in the bitter New Hampshire winters, for generations where there was no grid to even be off of. His grandfathers stoked fires so the dairy cows could survive, grew what they could in a short growing season, and hauled wagons of apples their family picked. He is the heart and soul of our country.

I mean, yeah, fuck that guy, un-evolved old bastard who gets his politics from how things were in the 70s, but let's give him the charity of a generous parsing.

DanaC · 02-01-2016, 10:45 AM

Quote:

but let's give him the charity of a generous parsing.

Words to live by.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-01-2016, 12:38 PM

Parsing? 100 years after UT's scenario, he has shelter, clothes, food, and a wheelchair, courtesy of the government. But he's pissed because they won't give him enough for an all-terrain chair, or enough to take a vacation in Cancun with the group from the bar. They could, you know, if they weren't handing out all that money to the lazy spics and niggers to buy drugs with.

Those leftwing democrats, starting with FDR, ruining America with a permanent underclass, and forcing him, a white Yankee, into it. But he's so angry he can't even bumble through that, no, he quotes chapter and verse from the guys he couldn't go to Cancun with. What he read on the pamphlets they gave him to hand out at the 4th of July parade, for the Eugenics Society.

Undertoad · 02-01-2016, 12:58 PM

I can't find in his words where he wanted more than what he was given. His problem is that he thinks his condition is different from everyone else's. I imagine part of that is a reaction to his guilt; "Yeah but my case is different, *I* really need it!" He doesn't see that most people on assistance "really need it", because he is disconnected and accepts the stereotypes he has at hand.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-01-2016, 01:47 PM

He's disconnected because the New Hampshire hillbillies he hangs with constantly carp about the welfare dregs. This forces him to wiggle into a different pigeonhole in defense. Now he's removed himself from that underclass, he can be one of the guys, a co-carper.

01-29-2016, 03:43 PM	#2
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Thank you sir, may I have another? __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-29-2016, 07:18 PM	#3
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Another Craig T. Nelson. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

01-29-2016, 08:10 PM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Yes, exactly, and there are so many more. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-30-2016, 08:16 AM	#5
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	He forgot his mental disability __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

01-31-2016, 11:38 PM	#6
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	xoB, your link is broken. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

01-31-2016, 11:58 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That appears to be happening a lot these days, stories go up for a time, then the links are broken when the item gets shipped off to an archive somewhere. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-01-2016, 08:15 AM	#8
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	I've run into many people over the years that hold a set of beliefs that is in conflict with the organization they belong to or the philosophy they espouse. I chuckled at my Catholic Facebook friends who took the "what religion should you be?" and got Buddhist as a result. They continue to attend Our Lady of Perpetual Intolerance. It's a blanket for them. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

02-01-2016, 09:07 AM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	But back to Earle Kolb, we may parse his statement correctly even if he failed to state it well. The public is not trained on how to answer questions from the press. You or I would fuck it up similarly. Maybe. Earle has been forced to accept funds because he's disabled. If he weren't disabled, there would be nothing you could do to stop him. He looks at the abled who take public funds without shame, and knows that his own shame is a morally strong position. He knows things we don't: that, without this sort of attitude, we are doomed. That that a society of hard workers will succeed, and a society of lazy bums will not. He is old New England stock, making it work in the bitter New Hampshire winters, for generations where there was no grid to even be off of. His grandfathers stoked fires so the dairy cows could survive, grew what they could in a short growing season, and hauled wagons of apples their family picked. He is the heart and soul of our country. I mean, yeah, fuck that guy, un-evolved old bastard who gets his politics from how things were in the 70s, but let's give him the charity of a generous parsing.

02-01-2016, 12:38 PM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Parsing? 100 years after UT's scenario, he has shelter, clothes, food, and a wheelchair, courtesy of the government. But he's pissed because they won't give him enough for an all-terrain chair, or enough to take a vacation in Cancun with the group from the bar. They could, you know, if they weren't handing out all that money to the lazy spics and niggers to buy drugs with. Those leftwing democrats, starting with FDR, ruining America with a permanent underclass, and forcing him, a white Yankee, into it. But he's so angry he can't even bumble through that, no, he quotes chapter and verse from the guys he couldn't go to Cancun with. What he read on the pamphlets they gave him to hand out at the 4th of July parade, for the Eugenics Society. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-01-2016, 12:58 PM	#12
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I can't find in his words where he wanted more than what he was given. His problem is that he thinks his condition is different from everyone else's. I imagine part of that is a reaction to his guilt; "Yeah but my case is different, I really need it!" He doesn't see that most people on assistance "really need it", because he is disconnected and accepts the stereotypes he has at hand.

02-01-2016, 01:47 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	He's disconnected because the New Hampshire hillbillies he hangs with constantly carp about the welfare dregs. This forces him to wiggle into a different pigeonhole in defense. Now he's removed himself from that underclass, he can be one of the guys, a co-carper. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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