New CPR

xoxoxoBruce · 10-13-2010, 02:22 AM

New method of CPR is more effective, requires no training/certification, no mouth to mouth, and you can't be held liable.

It's not really new, new, it's been around about 3 years. long enough to show excellent results compared to the old way.

monster · 10-13-2010, 11:57 AM

They're still training the old way, though, although they suggest this as an alternative action

glatt · 10-13-2010, 12:11 PM

Yeah, American Red Cross hasn't adopted this new way yet.

Tulip · 10-13-2010, 12:20 PM

I see it used in TV

Clodfobble · 10-13-2010, 12:57 PM

I like that the rate is the same as the beat to "Stayin' Alive." Whoever figured that out is a mnemonic genius.

BigV · 10-13-2010, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt

Yeah, American Red Cross hasn't adopted this new way yet.

Not so.

My recent American Red Cross training *did* include compression only CPR.

From their website:

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“We are pleased to see that these articles are consistent with and provide additional support for Red Cross guidelines,” says Dr. David Markenson, chair, American Red Cross Advisory Council on First Aid, Aquatics, Safety and Preparedness. “Since 2005 we have recognized Compression-Only CPR as an alternative lifesaving technique for untrained bystanders who witness the sudden collapse of an adult.“

Full CPR is recommended for infants and children since they experience sudden cardiac arrest primarily due to respiratory problems causing a loss of oxygen. Since a child’s oxygen levels in the blood are low at the time of cardiac arrest, they need rescue breaths to improve oxygen levels and aid in resuscitation.

glatt · 10-13-2010, 02:04 PM

When I got my CPR/AED certification last Fall, they taught the "old" method and did not include this new one. The instructor mentioned it in response to a question, but we didn't practice it on the dummies, and it wasn't on the test or in the handouts.

Cloud · 10-13-2010, 02:09 PM

probably don't want it spread around, because then they wouldn't make any money on certification and renewals

glatt · 10-13-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

probably don't want it spread around, because then they wouldn't make any money on certification and renewals

Yeah, those rich bastards at the Red Cross are always trying to screw us.

Cloud · 10-13-2010, 02:47 PM

No "bastards" were "screwed" in the making of this thread.

or were they?

classicman · 10-13-2010, 03:21 PM

Lemme check ....

Nope, I'm good.

Cloud · 10-13-2010, 03:42 PM

or disappointed, whichever!

Bullitt · 10-13-2010, 04:21 PM

Another piece of the puzzle is that it seems when the general public is given very simple, clear guidelines on how to do compression only CPR, they are much more likely to intervene in a cardiac situation since they are more confident in their abilities. That then leads to higher survival rates since at least something is being done during that golden window where minutes matter until more advanced life support via EMS can arrive and take over. I doubt CPR for the professional rescuer will change since we have access to oxygen, bag-valve masks, airway adjuncts, IV's, drugs, etc. It will be interesting to see where this goes though.

Cloud · 10-13-2010, 04:26 PM

I've never been in a situation where I had to do this (fortunately, and doubly fortunately since I've never had the training.) To be honest, I've always been kinda squicked about the mouth to mouth thing; and wondered if I would be willing to do this for someone who had blood or puke or foam in their mouths. I'd do it for my child or someone I loved, but for a stranger? I might hesitate (hangs head in shame). This looks better.

classicman · 10-13-2010, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

Lemme check ....

Nope, I'm good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

or disappointed, whichever!

hahahahaha

10-13-2010, 02:22 AM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	New CPR New method of CPR is more effective, requires no training/certification, no mouth to mouth, and you can't be held liable. It's not really new, new, it's been around about 3 years. long enough to show excellent results compared to the old way. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump. Last edited by xoxoxoBruce; 10-13-2010 at 02:32 AM.

10-13-2010, 11:57 AM	#2
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	They're still training the old way, though, although they suggest this as an alternative action __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

10-13-2010, 12:57 PM	#5
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I like that the rate is the same as the beat to "Stayin' Alive." Whoever figured that out is a mnemonic genius. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

10-13-2010, 02:09 PM	#8
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	probably don't want it spread around, because then they wouldn't make any money on certification and renewals __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

10-13-2010, 02:47 PM	#10
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	No "bastards" were "screwed" in the making of this thread. or were they? __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

10-13-2010, 12:11 PM	#3
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Yeah, American Red Cross hasn't adopted this new way yet.

10-13-2010, 12:20 PM	#4
Tulip Professor Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,293	I see it used in TV

10-13-2010, 02:04 PM	#7
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	When I got my CPR/AED certification last Fall, they taught the "old" method and did not include this new one. The instructor mentioned it in response to a question, but we didn't practice it on the dummies, and it wasn't on the test or in the handouts.

10-13-2010, 03:21 PM	#11
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Lemme check .... Nope, I'm good. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-13-2010, 03:42 PM	#12
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	or disappointed, whichever! __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

10-13-2010, 04:21 PM	#13
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	Another piece of the puzzle is that it seems when the general public is given very simple, clear guidelines on how to do compression only CPR, they are much more likely to intervene in a cardiac situation since they are more confident in their abilities. That then leads to higher survival rates since at least something is being done during that golden window where minutes matter until more advanced life support via EMS can arrive and take over. I doubt CPR for the professional rescuer will change since we have access to oxygen, bag-valve masks, airway adjuncts, IV's, drugs, etc. It will be interesting to see where this goes though. __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

10-13-2010, 04:26 PM	#14
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	I've never been in a situation where I had to do this (fortunately, and doubly fortunately since I've never had the training.) To be honest, I've always been kinda squicked about the mouth to mouth thing; and wondered if I would be willing to do this for someone who had blood or puke or foam in their mouths. I'd do it for my child or someone I loved, but for a stranger? I might hesitate (hangs head in shame). This looks better. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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