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07-31-2005, 06:44 AM | #1 |
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On the Proper Philly Cheesesteak
A lotta folks outside of Philly are being fed things that are called "Philly cheesesteaks" which range from "nice try but no cigar" to "You HAVE to be kidding!"
Main problem's the roll. Outside of the Phila-NY corridor, really decent Italian bakeries are thin on the ground. And let's face it, a cheesesteak isn't a cheesesteak unless it has a Sarcone's hoagie roll, with Amoroso's as a good second choice. The roll really should be fresh with a crispy crust. Sourdough long rolls or panini are a workable substitute. The beef itself is fairly simple: The cheapest cut of pot roast/brisket/etc. you can find, sliced thin against the grain. Pile this on a flat metal grilling surface (or a wok is OK, too) and grill it using olive oil. Use metal spatulas to chop the meat further as it cooks. Sides: Fried onions are the classic topping. Again, grill with olive oil until the onions are transparent and set aside while grilling the beef. Fried green peppers are OK, too. Cheese: Purists use nothing but Cheez Whiz. However, sliced provolone is good, too. Bon appetit! -MMM-
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07-31-2005, 10:25 AM | #2 | |
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I think I've had Sarcone's in the past, but I prefer Amoroso. When I was in Atlanta a long while back, I met a guy who opened an 'authentic' steak shop. If I remember, he had Amoroso's rolls shipped in.
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07-31-2005, 10:45 AM | #3 |
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Shortly after we moved here, I was introduced to steaks with Cheese Wiz at The Spectrum. I considered this completely revolting, and I just naturally assumed that this was an abomination that anyone of good sense would abhor in favor of some good Italian product like provolone. I couldn't believe it when I found out that wiz is considered the traditional default choice!
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08-01-2005, 09:39 AM | #4 |
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You Philly guys really do have the cheesesteak thingie down to a science. I had one years ago while visiting and since then I have wandered aimlessly in search of another "real" cheesesteak sandwich. Nothing around here but futile attempts. Might be a good business angle. But then again, some things just aren't authentic unless they have the proper geographical origin. My grandmother's buiscits weren't as good when she baked them at our house. Maybe I'll fly to the Penn State soon. I'm hungry.
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08-01-2005, 11:50 AM | #5 | |
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08-01-2005, 01:35 PM | #6 | |
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On another topic: Cheez Whiz???? You're kidding, right?
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08-01-2005, 01:37 PM | #7 |
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I need one of you to come to Texas and tell me if the cheesesteaks served at Texadelphia are as great as I think they are, or way off the mark.
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08-01-2005, 01:41 PM | #8 |
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We''ll ALL be right over.... you buyin'?
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08-01-2005, 01:46 PM | #9 | |
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08-01-2005, 02:21 PM | #10 | |
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08-01-2005, 02:37 PM | #11 |
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I've heard that it's gray before they put all the artificial colors in...
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08-01-2005, 03:21 PM | #12 | |
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08-01-2005, 05:43 PM | #13 | |
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08-01-2005, 08:04 PM | #14 |
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Well, now I want to try one. As much as I shudder at the thought, I'll have to try it with cheeze whiz for authenticity - once.
I've got a good local butcher. What cut of beef should I buy if I don't really want to buy a five pound roast?
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08-02-2005, 08:43 AM | #15 |
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there's a philly connection near the house, it's o.k. NBN eats the crap out of 'em. i on the other hand have only had it a couple of times. there's a perfectly good subway just down the street from there.
cheese whiz? on steak? if that's what philly conn. uses then it's sorta ok but damn, that just sounds nasty.
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