Celebrate the Death Day

[TheMercenary]

October 11, 2008
Che Guevara's Rendezvous With Justice
By Humberto Fontova
41 years ago this week (Oct.9, 1967) in Boliva, Ernesto "Che" Guevara got a major dose of his own medicine. Without trial, he was declared a murderer, stood against a wall and shot.

Historically speaking, justice has rarely been better served. The number of men Che's "revolutionary tribunals" condemned to death in the identical manner range anywhere from 400 to 1,892. The number of defenseless men (and boys) Che personally murdered with his own pistol runs to the dozens.

"Executions?" Che Guevara exclaimed while addressing the hallowed halls of the UN General Assembly on Dec. 9, 1964. "Certainly, we execute!" he declared to the claps and cheers of that august body. "And we will continue executing as long as it is necessary! This is a war to the DEATH against the Revolution's enemies!"

According to "The Black Book of Communism," those firing-squad executions had reached around 10,000 by that time. "I don't need proof to execute a man," snapped Che to a judicial underling in 1959. "I only need proof that it's necessary to execute him!"


Not that you'd surmise any of the above from the mainstream media or academia-much less Hollywood. From the high priests of the Fourth Estate, Che Guevara gets only accolades. Time magazine, for instance, honors Che Guevara among "The 100 Most Important People of the Century."

The man who declared, "a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate" (and set a spirited example), who boasted that he executed from "revolutionary conviction" rather than from any "archaic bourgeois details" like judicial evidence, and who urged "atomic extermination" as the final solution for those American "hyenas" (and came hearth-thumpingly close with Nuclear missiles in October 1962), is hailed by Time-not just among the "most important" people of the century-but in the "Heroes and Icons" section, alongside Anne Frank, Andrei Sakharov and Rosa Parks.

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http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...z_with_ju.html

[xoxoxoBruce]

Aren't they shooting the messenger (Time) there? He was an important figure in the history of the last century, so was Hitler and Stalin. Che certainly isn't a hero, or icon, of mine, but he is to hundreds of thousands, maybe millions.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Aren't they shooting the messenger (Time) there? He was an important figure in the history of the last century, so was Hitler and Stalin. Che certainly isn't a hero, or icon, of mine, but he is to hundreds of thousands, maybe millions.

I think the point of the authors message is that the marketing of his image to young people who can't find Bolivia, Cuba, or even frigging Iraq on a map is not a good thing. Since most do not know the history of this terrorist. He has a point.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I agree, most of the kids wearing Che t-shirts probably don't have a clue.
I was just defending Time's choice of Che as being important... and a hero/icon to many.

[Ibby]

I have an anti-che shirt in my closet... camo-green with a big che face, in a big red circle with a slash through it.
revolution - good.
violent revolution complete with killing sprees and thuggery - bad.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I agree, most of the kids wearing Che t-shirts probably don't have a clue.
I was just defending Time's choice of Che as being important... and a hero/icon to many.

Icon. Sure. Hero? In the US? that is the problem. The guy was a fucking terrorist. I bet even after reading Time's article 99% of the yahoo kids wearing that shirt or hat or whatever could tell you very little about his violent past, or that of the great purge in communist China, and all the grand things that did for Red China.

[ZenGum]

Silliest Che-patch award goes to that young Japanese lad with the USMC camo pants with the Che patch sown on next to the B-52 silhouette.

Best T-Shirt award gos to the on with the caption: "cliChe lives".

Important? Yeah maybe a little. My hero? No.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Silliest Che-patch award goes to that young Japanese lad with the USMC camo pants with the Che patch sown on next to the B-52 silhouette.

Best T-Shirt award gos to the on with the caption: "cliChe lives".

[TheMercenary]

Another great history lesson:

http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1535

[SamIam]

I am no fan of Che, but when you speak of ignorant kids, I think you should also include their ignorance of Latin America in general. Lack of a Democratic process, wide-spread terrorism, abuse of human rights, and all too often, hunger and malnourishment are prevelent. There are many reasons for this - corrupt governments, the Columbian drug cartel, abuses by the United Fruit Company, AND US interference such as the CIA assasignation of Salvador Allende, the democratically elected president of Chile. Chile had the distinction of being the longest standing democracy in South America until the US decided to undermine the government there.

No, I am no fan of Che, but I consider him as much a symptom of a serious problem, as he was the cause.

I had the opportunity to spend 6 months in Brasil, and at the time I was there, government soldiers were dragging people off in the night and people were quite literally starving in the gutters. I am rather surprised no Che-like character showed up there.

It is important to see all sides of a question. Otherwise you run the risk of being considered as ignorant as those kids on Yahoo.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Sure SamIam, without the horrific conditions that existed, and continue to exist, in South and Central America, Che would have never gained traction in the first place. I can see why he continues to represent the hope that someone, anyone, will ride in like Zorro and make the world beautiful.

I was only addressing the kid from the American suburbs, that hasn't missed a meal, or birthday present, in his life.

You know, come to think of it, using Che's image to sell soap is the ultimate victory of the capitalists over communists.

[TheMercenary]

That was sort of my beef as well. Rich or poor American kids.

Sam, no doubt problems still exist. Not here, although I am sure some bleeding heart liberal will try to make a case otherwise. I am talking about kids in the US who should be better educated. Those who like to bitch and moan about the practices of our government on the one hand and hold up the banner of Che in the other as if it was more rightious. BS.

[Sundae]

Is Che still seen as a hero by the disaffected youth of America?
I'm a little surprised.
He didn't really get a foothold here, except on an occasional t-shirt or poster by someone who didn't really know who he was, but man he fucked the system, right? He lived fast and died beautiful, right? Fucking cool, man.

I might be wrong about making a UK-wide statement- I'd need Dani and Monster to verify that- but certainly round here he was seen as a terrorist.

Nothing like having your cities blown up and civilians blown apart to turn you off terrorists.

BTW I can actually see how privation in South America would make the populace hail a hero out of a murderer. If you're out of options you take the hand that's proffered, no matter how bloody it is. It doesn't make him a hero though.

[Elspode]

In as much as Youth needs an anti-authority figure, I think they'd be better off with James Dean. At least he just fucked, drank and drove himself to death.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Is Che still seen as a hero by the disaffected youth of America?
I'm a little surprised.

Yes, go to any widely known leftists site. I would also be interested to see how many of these kids would react if faced with a true revolution that would undermine their current social status.

Originally Posted by Ibram

revolution - good.
violent revolution complete with killing sprees and thuggery - bad.

This post is too vague to fully tell but keep in mind that a non-violent revolution will have very little effect on a power hungry, usually violent oppressor. Change can happen non-violently within a system (see United States), but to completely overthrow a system, one has to be willing to use violence to get it.

For example, lets say we have a stable caste system set up in a country with two levels, an upper caste and lower caste. In order to get rid of the caste system, violence will be necessary (disregarding outside forces). But, as you pointed out, there is a HUGE difference between killing the counter-revolutionaries who will fight to defend the current system and just killing the entire upper caste.


For the record, I have no interest in Che.