ID Card On Its Way

02-14-2007, 07:37 PM

http://news.com.com/National+ID+card...3-5573414.html

http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/

http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveilla...lidsystem.html

http://www.discourse.net/archives/id_cards/index.html

I WILL NOT carry a national, or mandated, ID Card.
FL is trying to institute their own. It is scheduled for May 1st.

Aliantha · 02-14-2007, 08:09 PM

While I agree with your stance against ID cards, I can't help but wonder how one is to avoid it if the practice is indeed implimented.

bluecuracao · 02-14-2007, 08:14 PM

I'm wondering...how would they enforce it?

Aliantha · 02-14-2007, 08:15 PM

If you don't have an ID card they'd limit the benefits you can get from the state. A bit like if you don't have a social security number I would guess.

Kitsune · 02-14-2007, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I WILL NOT carry a national, or mandated, ID Card.
FL is trying to institute their own. It is scheduled for May 1st.

Depending on when you last got your DL renewed in this state and how up to date your county is, chances are that you've already got one in your wallet. I've had one of the new Hillsboro ones for some time.

piercehawkeye45 · 02-14-2007, 09:11 PM

I don't like this at all...

I hate how they say it isn't a national ID card because it is voluntary. Yet, if your state decides not to partake in it, you are a nonperson in the eyes of the government.

monster · 02-14-2007, 09:34 PM

As far as I can tell, the driver's licence already acts as an ID card. You need it to prove your age, write checks, join organizations, get an FBI background check.... This is one of the things that makes me laugh when people call it "the free-est country". Depends on your definition of freedom.....

As to whether I care.... No, I don't. There is already enough data out there for them to collect what they want to know about me. Sure, an ID card will make it easier. Easier means it should cost less, so more tax dollars available for the really important stuff, no?

wolf · 02-14-2007, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I WILL NOT carry a national, or mandated, ID Card.
FL is trying to institute their own. It is scheduled for May 1st.

I think you said you don't drive any longer? That makes it a lot easier to do.

WabUfvot5 · 02-15-2007, 02:21 AM

Most IDs have a magnetic strip in them. Mine "accidentally" got demagnetized. I'm sure any RFID in my ID would "accidentally" get the same (or worse) treatment. Still a shameful erosion of liberties.

Happy Monkey · 02-15-2007, 09:42 AM

When I didn't drive, I needed a "Non-Drivers ID" for a bunch of stuff, especially employment-related.

02-15-2007, 10:37 AM

I don't drive. If I did... there would be a way.
If forced to get one, it would be destroyed immediately, publicly.

Kitsune · 02-15-2007, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jebediah

I'm sure any RFID in my ID would "accidentally" get the same (or worse) treatment.

Have you seen how tiny they can make RFIDs these days?

That's not pepper on your food...!

Elspode · 02-15-2007, 01:21 PM

Why don't they just take our DNA samples, chip and barcode us all, and get it over with?

WabUfvot5 · 02-15-2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Have you seen how tiny they can make RFIDs these days?

That's not pepper on your food...!

One word: microwave

Bullitt · 02-15-2007, 03:51 PM

02-14-2007, 07:37 PM	#1
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	ID Card On Its Way http://news.com.com/National+ID+card...3-5573414.html http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/ http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveilla...lidsystem.html http://www.discourse.net/archives/id_cards/index.html I WILL NOT carry a national, or mandated, ID Card. FL is trying to institute their own. It is scheduled for May 1st.

02-14-2007, 08:09 PM	#2
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	While I agree with your stance against ID cards, I can't help but wonder how one is to avoid it if the practice is indeed implimented. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-14-2007, 08:15 PM	#4
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	If you don't have an ID card they'd limit the benefits you can get from the state. A bit like if you don't have a social security number I would guess. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-14-2007, 09:34 PM	#7
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	As far as I can tell, the driver's licence already acts as an ID card. You need it to prove your age, write checks, join organizations, get an FBI background check.... This is one of the things that makes me laugh when people call it "the free-est country". Depends on your definition of freedom..... As to whether I care.... No, I don't. There is already enough data out there for them to collect what they want to know about me. Sure, an ID card will make it easier. Easier means it should cost less, so more tax dollars available for the really important stuff, no? __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

02-15-2007, 09:42 AM	#10
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	When I didn't drive, I needed a "Non-Drivers ID" for a bunch of stuff, especially employment-related. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

02-14-2007, 08:14 PM	#3
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	I'm wondering...how would they enforce it?

02-14-2007, 09:11 PM	#6
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	I don't like this at all... I hate how they say it isn't a national ID card because it is voluntary. Yet, if your state decides not to partake in it, you are a nonperson in the eyes of the government.

02-15-2007, 02:21 AM	#9
WabUfvot5 Operations Operative Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 634	Most IDs have a magnetic strip in them. Mine "accidentally" got demagnetized. I'm sure any RFID in my ID would "accidentally" get the same (or worse) treatment. Still a shameful erosion of liberties.

02-15-2007, 10:37 AM	#11
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I don't drive. If I did... there would be a way. If forced to get one, it would be destroyed immediately, publicly.

02-15-2007, 01:21 PM	#13
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Why don't they just take our DNA samples, chip and barcode us all, and get it over with? __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

02-15-2007, 03:51 PM	#15
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	__________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

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