[Aliantha]

Geez Dana...very impressive analysis there. We have similar issues with our political system here in Oz although not to the point of "suspending" members for voting against. in fact, we have one member who has 'crossed the floor' several times recently and caused major policy changes because of his canny ability to play his cards just at the right time. I really believe that politics is all about timing and getting the right things said and done at the right time. If you vote with the herd, you'll always be one of the herd. If you place you vote wisely at the right time, you can change the world...or at least your little part of it...and that's what labour is all about. In my very humble opinion.