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… I will put up with anyone who puts up with everyone else, no matter how much I disagree with them. Nazis and ISIS are the only two groups that I don't feel any need to tolerate on even a provisional basis.
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As a natural rights libertarian, I absolutely agree: nazis, islamists (along with socialist/commies and thought police) are "direct existential danger(s) to everyone around them". ...
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I didn't say Islamists. I said ISIS.
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half a dozen of one, six of the other
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So you are suggesting that all Muslims are the same as ISIS fanatics?
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nope. muslims and islamists are two different animals.
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… I wasn't puttin' words in your mouth; I just see no difference between islamists and isis.
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(changes in BOLD type mine for continuity)
The definitions can be a slippery slope.
I find it helpful to think of it as the Spectrum of Islam Continuum:
Muslims (have Islam as their religion) > Fundamentalist Muslims/Islamists (have Islam as their religion and politics
by peaceful means) > Extreme/Fanatic/Radical Islamists [Extremists] (have Islam as their religion and politics
by any means necessary).
Between the terms Muslims and Islamists there's some overlap; but, I don't consider them the same.
Between the terms Islamists and Extremists (like ISIS) there's some overlap; but, I don't consider them the same.
FWIW:
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/...-vs.-islamists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism