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Old 03-17-2015, 10:19 PM   #65
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Politics is where the consensus is really built, and there's where my hate hate comes from. The argument stops being scientific and starts being political.

At that point, the facts collections start to differ, and meta-facts show up. Example.

NASA reports there is a 38% probability 2014 was the warmest year on record.

The orange team takes home: 2014 was the warmest year ever.

The purple team takes home: NASA can't say what the warmest year is.

Both are wrong, but they carry their validating meta-facts back to their hives and add it to their bullshit stew. Everybody's eating it and convinced they are correct and have unlocked the special secret sauce. There is NOTHING in the world as satisfying as being RIGHT.

Sometimes one team even takes a detailed look at the other team's meta-facts and.... guess what, their information is all wrong! More proof our team is right!

But now, a study shows that the orange and purple teams are equally well-informed and scientifically literate. What! Impossible!

The meta-fact from the 2013 literature review is 97% of scientists agree with AGW. That's not what the study says. What the study says is much less convincing, certainly not overwhelming, in my opinion*. But 97%, THAT is impressive... add it to the stew.




*forming your own opinion is left as an exercise for the reader or you could just take a nap because wtf is all this shit anyway
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