http://www.absorbinejr.com in my opinion works better than Icy Hot because its not as messy. Joint pain relief has been a problem for me especially in my neck. I used Absorbine Jr for neck pain relief because it had a glue stick like applicator which is easy to put on by myself, which is helpful because sometimes you can't find someone to put it on for you. It's important to find something that gets you pain relief fast and quickly. I use this stuff before bed after a long rum around the block fora couple of hours.