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Sometimes I think we are diametrically opposed TW.
But on this I'm with you.
"Values" indeed.

I was talking to Rich the other day. I'm not sure we're on exactly the same page re gay marriage, but we're certainly in the same chapter. An American Jew and an English ex-Catholic can agree more readily than two people of Faith (as it was always said to me by the nuns) ruled by the same chap.

And I can totally believe that, having known many African Christians. African as in having been born and grown up in Africa, not as in descended from people who lived in Africa six generations ago. There is a very VERY conservative church there. They give the Phelps a run for their money. You do not want to tell a Nigerian or Ghanaian mama about your gay-sympathising ways. I had one such matron tell me, albeit in a roundabout way, that I should have been smacked more with a spoon as a child.