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Old 01-25-2002, 01:22 AM   #18
jeni
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: santa cruz, california
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...behave in some way other than what is natural, if we deem it necessary.
and i don't deem it necessary to stop the natural act of eating meat. simple. i said "it helps that i like the taste." if i didn't like the taste, i wouldn't eat meat. hence my not eating fish. but that isn't the only reason i eat meat. i choose to eat meat for other reasons, which, to list, would be redundant. i also don't gripe to my vegetarian friends about why they don't eat meat. it's a personal preference, and they have their reasons. such as i have mine for eating how i do.

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Oh, so it's Ok, as long as you don't have to look at it?
no. i didn't say that. i said that we did not put those slaughters on display for the public to watch and get enjoyment from. if we did, it would make me feel much more sad about the way the country and its inhabitants decide to make money. i think that watching the death of anything for enjoyment is sickening. will i eat meat? yes. it is natural for me to eat meat. i get lots of iron from it. do i think that the way slaughterhouses go about killing the animals is particularly humane? no. do i want to pay money to watch it? absolutely not. i don't think it is OKAY. but it is not going to stop me from eating meat. i'm not on a fucking crusade, here. i just have an opinion about dog fights. if i were out to stop them, instead of just talking about them with you online, you could very well counter everything i said if you liked. but i'm not out to stop them. i just would not choose to participate in one, because i think it is wrong to brainwash something.

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...happiness in ignorance that people enjoy today, and I know that I eat less meat ever since my first hunt.
happiness in ignorance? i'm not ignorant of what goes on in slaughterhouses. i know plenty about that, just as i have sat and watched a deer die after my friend's dad put a bullet in its neck. and i watched him cut slits in its legs, shove a nice thick metal rod through, and hang it upside down for the blood to drain out. and i looked into its dead black eyes. you cannot assume that just because i eat meat, i know nothing about what goes on "behind the scenes".

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cow kills a cow, man kills a cow... what's the diff?
the difference is that you are taking what i said and making something totally different out of it. i specifically said that i thought it was not right to breed, raise, and train a dog to fight. i have watched plently of programs about the practice, and i know enough to know that i think it's unfair.

look, it's the same as this. the KKK has specific women set aside for breeding. when those babies are born, they are raised and taught to believe what the KKK tells them. i also think this is not right. do you know why? because that child will never have a chance to think on its own without getting bitched at.

much the same as those dogs won't ever be able to live normal lives with little boys named timmy taking them for walks and hugging them before bed at nine o'clock. you get the idea?
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