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BigV · 04-09-2017, 10:01 PM

I believe what they're doing is trying to get each school district in court to say that it's more important for the state to hit the kid than it is for the state to respect their religious freedom.

That is going to be a very difficult case to make.

Of course there will be people who are scandalized by the labels used for this religious argument. Indeed there are religious traditions where corporal punishment is an accepted part of the program. Being whacked by a nun in catholic school is practically a cliche'. Certainly, no student in a catholic school will register as a satanist to be able to claim a religious defense. I grant you that.

But there are lots of public schools where corporal punishment and the like are part of the accepted system. I believe there are plenty of opportunities for people, families, students, who would be willing to say this to prevent that.

The religious freedom ... (unladylike words here) persons are going to be hoist on their own petard. It will not take many "satanists" to get a case to court to make a lot of news. And as for the cost, I believe the ACLU would take such a case, be *happy* to take such a case.

Did you read at the link the anecdote about the male vice principal spanking female students against the school district's existing rules? And that rather than subject the vp to negative consequences, the school district went all in in the opposite direction, making it explicitly legal for opposite sex spanking. Creep factor is +1, but that's small potatoes compared to the uselessness of the tactic. Like you're gonna paddle a kid into "getting it" or "seeing things your way". Good fucking luck, paddler, you are gonna need it. There probably is a small segment of the population that such a strategy would prove successful. But that implies a much larger segment in which the paddler would simply harden the attitudes of the student.

I haven't been a school administrator, but I've been a parent, and the adult in the room... and I can tell you that "too big to spank" comes really young. It's just so easy to get it wrong, a thousand times more likely go badly. Something that is so unlikely to succeed should not be policy.

Tha's kinda fucked up.

04-09-2017, 10:01 PM	#52
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I believe what they're doing is trying to get each school district in court to say that it's more important for the state to hit the kid than it is for the state to respect their religious freedom. That is going to be a very difficult case to make. Of course there will be people who are scandalized by the labels used for this religious argument. Indeed there are religious traditions where corporal punishment is an accepted part of the program. Being whacked by a nun in catholic school is practically a cliche'. Certainly, no student in a catholic school will register as a satanist to be able to claim a religious defense. I grant you that. But there are lots of public schools where corporal punishment and the like are part of the accepted system. I believe there are plenty of opportunities for people, families, students, who would be willing to say this to prevent that. The religious freedom ... (unladylike words here) persons are going to be hoist on their own petard. It will not take many "satanists" to get a case to court to make a lot of news. And as for the cost, I believe the ACLU would take such a case, be happy to take such a case. Did you read at the link the anecdote about the male vice principal spanking female students against the school district's existing rules? And that rather than subject the vp to negative consequences, the school district went all in in the opposite direction, making it explicitly legal for opposite sex spanking. Creep factor is +1, but that's small potatoes compared to the uselessness of the tactic. Like you're gonna paddle a kid into "getting it" or "seeing things your way". Good fucking luck, paddler, you are gonna need it. There probably is a small segment of the population that such a strategy would prove successful. But that implies a much larger segment in which the paddler would simply harden the attitudes of the student. I haven't been a school administrator, but I've been a parent, and the adult in the room... and I can tell you that "too big to spank" comes really young. It's just so easy to get it wrong, a thousand times more likely go badly. Something that is so unlikely to succeed should not be policy. Tha's kinda fucked up. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.