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DanaC · 05-12-2004, 06:20 PM

How can someone have a BA in history yet display such seeming ignorance of WW2's historical context? The government in Germany prior to the war was the direct result of the Versailles treaty, it was an aberration which came to an end because of the Allies ranged against it, not because America won.

You think Hiroshima was worth it? You dont think that might be described as a sledgehammer to crack a walnut?

Oh...and we, your British allies werent there to install democracy we were there because of an imminent threat to our national safety. Regime change was considered not to be a valid rationale for going to war. With no imminent danger of attack it was illegal to invade.

"the quotes were to point out that we aren't fighting an actual army. these are individuals that take their cheap shots and slink back into society at large. if the non-combatants, for lack of a better word, refuse to call out the terrorists in their midst, then unfortunately many of the innocent will die."

For want of a better word? We have a perfectly good word. Civilians. It doesnt need any inverted commas the word stands.

"personally i don't believe the arab nations are capable of supporting a democracy in the way most westerners view it, but if that is what we are there to do, then DO IT THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY THAT CAUSES US THE LEAST CASUALTIES."

If we are there in the aid of Arab democracy surely we should be doing that in the most efficient way that causes THEM the least casualties, as long as we value the blood of those we seek to democratise at a lower rate than we value our professional soldiery we are just an enemy occupation force installing a puppet regime. If you are not overly concerned with the demise of those you are democratising I seriously doubt they'll be over concerned with accepting that democracy. In much the same way as Rumsfeld was not overly concerned about the geneva convention. You do remember the Geneva convention? Of course you do you have an MA in history.

05-12-2004, 06:20 PM	#22
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	How can someone have a BA in history yet display such seeming ignorance of WW2's historical context? The government in Germany prior to the war was the direct result of the Versailles treaty, it was an aberration which came to an end because of the Allies ranged against it, not because America won. You think Hiroshima was worth it? You dont think that might be described as a sledgehammer to crack a walnut? Oh...and we, your British allies werent there to install democracy we were there because of an imminent threat to our national safety. Regime change was considered not to be a valid rationale for going to war. With no imminent danger of attack it was illegal to invade. "the quotes were to point out that we aren't fighting an actual army. these are individuals that take their cheap shots and slink back into society at large. if the non-combatants, for lack of a better word, refuse to call out the terrorists in their midst, then unfortunately many of the innocent will die." For want of a better word? We have a perfectly good word. Civilians. It doesnt need any inverted commas the word stands. "personally i don't believe the arab nations are capable of supporting a democracy in the way most westerners view it, but if that is what we are there to do, then DO IT THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY THAT CAUSES US THE LEAST CASUALTIES." If we are there in the aid of Arab democracy surely we should be doing that in the most efficient way that causes THEM the least casualties, as long as we value the blood of those we seek to democratise at a lower rate than we value our professional soldiery we are just an enemy occupation force installing a puppet regime. If you are not overly concerned with the demise of those you are democratising I seriously doubt they'll be over concerned with accepting that democracy. In much the same way as Rumsfeld was not overly concerned about the geneva convention. You do remember the Geneva convention? Of course you do you have an MA in history.