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Old 05-09-2004, 07:02 PM   #93
Happy Monkey
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Originally posted by OnyxCougar
Questions for Evoutionists. (I don't expect an answer to these, this is rhetorical.)
Too bad.

6) It didn't. It came from nonliving matter. How? Unknown.

7) It didn't 'learn' anything. Crystals reproduce themselves easily. Life reproduces itself in a more complicated, but also more adaptible method. When, where, why, and how are unknown.

8) (I'm making this up, not speaking from research. It's just one possibility.) The first non-asexual reproduction was bisexual - two critters swapped DNA, neither was male or female (DNA swapping has an adaptability advantage). Amid the random variation, one variety developed a tendency to go after another variety. A symbiotic relationship developed, with the two varieties dependent upon each other.

9) Want doesn't enter into it. Non-reproductive strains die out. There is no "drive to survive", as you use the term. Species which were more suited to continue, did continue. In the case of some of the more complicated animals, a mental "drive to survive" in the individual might increase the chance of replication.

10) But mutations in binary code can change Shakespeare to Sun Tsu. DNA is much closer to binary code (actually it's base 4) than it is to English.

11) Yes, but evidence suggests otherwise. And no evidence suggests a creator. That's why faith is necessary for such a belief.

12) Random mutations cause more complicated and less complicated results. The less complicated ones are often more successful - bacteria don't end up on the endangered species list - but all that is needed is for a species to be successful enough to survive. If a bug with a horn can fight off enough bugs without horns to successfully mate, that's enough. It is primarily our perspective that makes it seem like complexity is increasing - most life is still single cell. But for any complicated life to exist at all is what takes millennia.

13) Two and three-celled life forms are unlikely (I'm not ruling it out, though. You never know.) Much more likely is a mutation that a) prevented a cell division from fully completing, and b) did not cause death. From then on, it would continue to grow, each division making it bigger. Slime mold is an example. Such a colony needs to have a certain shape, or some members won't get food. Or, perhaps, the members that don't get food die, providing a conduit for their neighbors to get food, which ends up producing a structure. A sponge, perhaps. I provided a link a while back that discusses the various transitions between fish, amphibians, reptiles, etc.

14) a) probably from a hippo-like creature.
b) I don't know.
c) probably from something resembling a flying squirrel
d) See here.
e) Ears are just flesh ridges around vibration sensors, and vibrations are probably the very first sense evolved. (perhaps after temperature, doesn't matter either way).
f) On a colony of critters as mentioned in 13), the outermost layer probably evolved to be the most hardy - I'm not saying it was a different species, just that exposure to the 'outside' caused it to be more defensive. Thus, perhaps, the origin of skin. Everything after that is based on the environment it found itself in.

15) These are all questions that can be answered with very little imagination needed.
a)Food came first - plants. Then animals which ate plants. Then animals which ate animals. "Ability to find" started off as "random bumping into", then as senses and mobility improved, became hunting. Digestive juices increased in potency just behind stomach lining resistance.
b) Ability came before desire. Desire is the mechanism by which creatures with consciousness are governed. Simpler creatures react simply by stimulus-response.
c) Simple lungs, then mucous. The throat is just the hole from the outside to the lungs. The air was already there. It wasn't "the perfect mixture", it was what was available. Critters that could use it did so.
d) I don't remember enough about DNA/RNA interaction. But as I recall, there are very simple critters with just RNA, so I guess RNA probably came first.
e) Flagella predate termites. But I expect that cellulose digestion is something that slowly built up, providing proto-termites with wider and wider variety of potential food sources. Wood turned out to be resistant to predators, so it was preferred.
f) Plants first, generally reproducing by wind. Insects started eating plants, but also spreading pollen more efficiently than wind. Plants that attracted more insects reproduced better. Plants that attracted insects, and provided them with food that was undamaging to the plant (nectar) survived longer.
g) blood first - food source for cell colonies. Then muscles. See squid, octopi, slugs, etc. Bones provide structure and make animals less appetizing. Ligaments and tendons are increase efficiency of muscle movement.
h) I don't know enough.
i) The need, of course.
The only puzzle for most of these is assuming that one part of an animal evolved to its complete modern state completely separately from another part. In fact, the parts evolve together.
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