[lumberjim]

i lost track of this thread, and have not yet taken the time to catch up, but.....

i wanted to drop this little gem into the pot:

I heard an argument for creationism that trumps all arguments against it:

when god created the heavens and the earth, and all of space and time, he created it complete with already ancient fossils and extinct creatures. Even if faced with irrefutable proof of evolution, their faith muscle is so strong, that their grip on their belief will not waver.

i can only express my frustration with it, because they have every right to believe in Genesis. And obviously nothing I say can change their minds.

whatever.